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Polish Pilots Take Controls on F-16
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jeez the guy second from the left's big!
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Military cooperation between America and Poland appears ready to take off to a higher level as Prime Minister Kaczynski is to arrive here at September, 17 to accept three of 48 F-16s that his country is buying from Lockheed Martin. In addition, the Pentagon is negotiating with Poland to place a Star Wars-type missile defense shield on Polish territory that could shoot down rockets fired at America or its NATO allies.
At September, 17 as Polish Defense Minister Radek Sikorski climbed out of an F-16, he was doused with a bucket of water by American pilots who christened his maiden voyage flying at 9 Gs.
The minister laughed at American pilots hazing and addressed several dozen of his own nation's pilots, engineers, and mechanics who are here training on the new equipment, saying, "This aircraft will help keep the skies above Poland safe."
But, more important, according to a test pilot for Lockheed Martin, Bill Gigliotti, these F-16s make Poland a more significant "player" in NATO because these new jets will be the more technologically advanced aircraft available to NATO partners.
After emerging from Soviet domination behind the Iron Curtain, Poland joined NATO in 1999 and then established even closer military ties with America in 2003 when it agreed to lead the multinational zone in Iraq.
Mr. Gigliotti said: "The F-16 program is about more than just an aircraft. It represents a partnership between Poland and the United States. What this means to the Polish Air Force is full and instant operability with NATO. When delivered, the Poland F-16 will be the most advanced fighter aircraft in NATO. Now, Poland can participate in NATO coalition contingency planning operations."
Mr. Kaczynski on Wednesday announced in Washington that Poland would up its contingent in Afghanistan from 100 to 1,000 soldiers to help fight the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
Mr. Sikorski told the Sun, "Afghanistan paid a terrible price for standing up to the Evil Empire in the 1980s. We in Poland know the true meaning of solidarity, and we want NATO to confirm its credibility."
Mr. Sikorski said that, while Poland is a committed partner in supporting America in the war on terror, it also ask to think of its own security.
President Putin of Russia has put missiles on the Polish border, the first hostile deployment on a NATO border in 20 years, and he is threatening to put up more missiles if Poland agreed to the missile defense base.
While the Polish government is willing to take on the higher risk of taking an obvious target on its territory, the missile base agreement would have trouble passing the Polish parliament unless America helps to counter Russia's hostile deployments. Then negotiations on the missile defense system will likely heat up when Poland's president, Lech Kaczynski, the prime minister's brother, will visit America.
At September, 17 as Polish Defense Minister Radek Sikorski climbed out of an F-16, he was doused with a bucket of water by American pilots who christened his maiden voyage flying at 9 Gs.
The minister laughed at American pilots hazing and addressed several dozen of his own nation's pilots, engineers, and mechanics who are here training on the new equipment, saying, "This aircraft will help keep the skies above Poland safe."
But, more important, according to a test pilot for Lockheed Martin, Bill Gigliotti, these F-16s make Poland a more significant "player" in NATO because these new jets will be the more technologically advanced aircraft available to NATO partners.
After emerging from Soviet domination behind the Iron Curtain, Poland joined NATO in 1999 and then established even closer military ties with America in 2003 when it agreed to lead the multinational zone in Iraq.
Mr. Gigliotti said: "The F-16 program is about more than just an aircraft. It represents a partnership between Poland and the United States. What this means to the Polish Air Force is full and instant operability with NATO. When delivered, the Poland F-16 will be the most advanced fighter aircraft in NATO. Now, Poland can participate in NATO coalition contingency planning operations."
Mr. Kaczynski on Wednesday announced in Washington that Poland would up its contingent in Afghanistan from 100 to 1,000 soldiers to help fight the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
Mr. Sikorski told the Sun, "Afghanistan paid a terrible price for standing up to the Evil Empire in the 1980s. We in Poland know the true meaning of solidarity, and we want NATO to confirm its credibility."
Mr. Sikorski said that, while Poland is a committed partner in supporting America in the war on terror, it also ask to think of its own security.
President Putin of Russia has put missiles on the Polish border, the first hostile deployment on a NATO border in 20 years, and he is threatening to put up more missiles if Poland agreed to the missile defense base.
While the Polish government is willing to take on the higher risk of taking an obvious target on its territory, the missile base agreement would have trouble passing the Polish parliament unless America helps to counter Russia's hostile deployments. Then negotiations on the missile defense system will likely heat up when Poland's president, Lech Kaczynski, the prime minister's brother, will visit America.
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does the whole missile base thing sound like annother Cuba in the making to anyone else? i realise Russia doesn't quite have the might to do anything too stupid but still........
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I think its true to say that the West have always respected the Poles as a brave people. Its good to see that this continues.
During the Cold War the Poles were one of the best equipped and trained of the Warsaw Pact nations but from what I read the Russians never really had the same level of control as they had over other nations.
During the Cold War the Poles were one of the best equipped and trained of the Warsaw Pact nations but from what I read the Russians never really had the same level of control as they had over other nations.
In the Stars and Stripes newspaper yesterday. The US has turned down the Polish offer in negotiations to place bases and troops in Poland. Instead they are going to set up the bases in Romania and Bulgaria.
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Nice. 
V2 the guy on the bottom pic is an American pilot not Polish. He is wearing Airforce Blue Lt Colonal rank and his squadron patch says that he is with 152nd Fighter Squadron.
The same thing with the 2nd and 3rd pic.
The same thing with the 2nd and 3rd pic.
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Nice video with polish F-16:
Google Video:
http://video.google.pl/videoplay?doc...68798023949642
Download ~44MB:
http://www.f-16.pl/movies/a3.mpg
Two Polish F-16 and two Polish MiG-29 over Poznań:
Google Video:
http://video.google.pl/videoplay?doc...68798023949642
Download ~44MB:
http://www.f-16.pl/movies/a3.mpg
Two Polish F-16 and two Polish MiG-29 over Poznań:
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The US goverments may have its reasons, but if I was Polish, I might feel a bit slighted. We/you should take up their offer, if only out of sympathy and respect for them.
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more pics:
F-16 w Polsce
F-16 w Polsce
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On Monday, January 15th 2007 two polish pilots – Lt. Col. Zbigniew Zawada (commander of the 6th tactical air squadron) and Lt. Col. Dariusz Malinowski (commander of the 10th tactical air squadron) – began their training on the F-16 Block52+, under the supervision of USAF instructors. Two training flights will be conducted daily – during morning and afternoon hours - from Monday to Friday. The number of flights and their frequency will gradually increase as more aircraft and air personnel arrive at the 31st Air Base. Currently, the Polish Air Force uses two F-16's for its training needs. Three additional aircraft are undergoing the final phases of ground maintenance procedures and will soon be ready for conducting training flights.
Poland has purchased forty eight F-16 Block52+ multirole aircraft (thirty six F-16C and twelve F-16D) – eight of which have been delivered to the 31st Air Base in Poznan-Krzesiny at the end of 2006. In 2007 the base will receive additional twenty four F-16's.
Poland has purchased forty eight F-16 Block52+ multirole aircraft (thirty six F-16C and twelve F-16D) – eight of which have been delivered to the 31st Air Base in Poznan-Krzesiny at the end of 2006. In 2007 the base will receive additional twenty four F-16's.
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the lancaster kicks ass
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so you're not getting any two seaters for training?
Look at the bottom pic. It is a two seater.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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- Dec 20, 2003
well blow me down so it is it's them damned reflections don't ya know........
it's them damned reflections don't ya know........
