Seesul´s lingual corner

trim tab = only the trim of the rudder of the elevator or all the moving part of the horizontal stabilizer?
Please, if there´s any pic available that would be fine.
Thx.

Hi Roman, here's some photos of trim tabs on a P-51D.

Hope this helps!

IMG 1: Tail trim tab
IMG 2: Aileron trim tab full view
IMG 3: Aileron close up
IMG 4: Elevator trim tab

Thank you David! So it is just a trim. I thought so and yo just confirmed it.

One B-24 that went down close to my born town had a nose art 'Rough Cobb''.
What does the word 'Cobb' mean?

A cob is an ear of maize also called corn (what the lovely lady is sitting on). Cobb is also a surname, maybe the one of the crews name was Cobb?

No,there was no crew member with such a name. But thank you!
Another opinion?

Roman,

Is it possible the crew onboard the Rough Cobb was an alternate crew?

There were occasions where crews were substituted for various reasons, such as R&R, injuries, illnesses and completions of thier tours.

GrauGeist said:

Roman,

Is it possible the crew onboard the Rough Cobb was an alternate crew?

There were occasions where crews were substituted for various reasons, such as R&R, injuries, illnesses and completions of thier tours.

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This really I don´t know Dave.
So Cobb doesn´t have any real meaning?

Well, the word Cobb on the bomber is spelled different than "Cob", as in a corn cob or the old name for a male swan or a pony. Way back in the past, people used corncobs to...uh, wipe thier rear-ends (before there was toilet paper)...not sure if they'd name thier Bomber after a "rough wipe", although Americans can have a twisted sense of humor, so anything's possible!

I do know that the surname Cobb is used, there was a famous Baseball player named Ty Cobb. So now I am back to speculating if there was an original crew for that bomber who had a member with the name Cobb...

GrauGeist said:

Well, the word Cobb on the bomber is spelled different than "Cob", as in a corn cob or the old name for a male swan or a pony. Way back in the past, people used corncobs to...uh, wipe thier rear-ends (before there was toilet paper)...not sure if they'd name thier Bomber after a "rough wipe", although Americans can have a twisted sense of humor, so anything's possible!

I do know that the surname Cobb is used, there was a famous Baseball player named Ty Cobb. So now I am back to speculating if there was an original crew for that bomber who had a member with the name Cobb...

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Well, that really must have been a rough wipe

Dave, don´t you think that this nose art 'Rough Cobb' could picture something like ehmm...what the woman uses when the man is not on hand...?

Oh, what a nice wit and humor they had!
Very interesting.

seesul said:

Dave, don´t you think that this nose art 'Rough Cobb' could picture something like ehmm...what the woman uses when the man is not on hand...?

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Uh...wow...my guess would be no...but that's just a guess

hey Roman-

Rough as a Cob is an old saying that comes from the roughness of the cob when done toileting. It refers to someone who is rather abrasive (slightly rude) in their actions and speaking... perfect to describe a rough and ready and take no crap bomber crew....


there was also a pilot William Cobb Bullock KIA on mission 263....
here's his info from the 2nd bomb group site (I hope it pastes OK)

Name Position CRW Date Aircraft MSN Target
Bullock, William Cobb Co-Pilot HGL 440622 231473 216 Parma IT

Bullock, William Cobb Co-Pilot SAD 440623 297652 217 Ploesti RO

Bullock, William Cobb Co-Pilot CNB 440625 2107118 218 Sete FR

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440627 232048 220 Budapest HU

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot ERT WCB 440630 297159 221 Blechhammer GE

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440703 231789 223 Arad RO

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440704 231789 224 Brasov RO

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440706 297351 226 Verona IT

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440708 231473 228 Vosendorf AU

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440709 231473 229 Ploesti RO

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440713 231473 230 Verona IT

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440715 231473 232 Ploesti RO

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440719 2107118 235 Munich GE

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440721 231473 237 Brux CZ

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440725 231473 239 Linz AU

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot ERT WCB 440726 231473 240 Wiener Neustadt AU

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440728 231473 242 Ploesti RO

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440802 232048 244 Portes le Valence FR

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440806 231473 246 Le Pouzin FR

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot ERT WCB 440809 231473 248 Gyor HU

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440818 231877 254 Ploesti RO

Bullock, William Cobb Co-Pilot CWS 440823 46359 257 Vienna AU

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot ERT WCB 440825 46359 259 Brno CZ

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot WCB 440827 46359 261 Blechhammer GE

Bullock, William Cobb Pilot KIA WCB 440829 46359 263 Moravska Ostrava CZ

and lookie this.............

Shepard, Charles W 440823 257 Pilot 46359 CWS Vienna AU

Bullock, William Cobb 440823 257 Co-Pilot 46359 CWS Vienna AU

Dickinson, Loy A 440823 257 Navigator 46359 CWS Vienna AU

Meyrick, Russell W 440823 257 Bomb/Togglier 46359 CWS Vienna AU

Masters, Karl L 440823 257 Eng/Top Turret 46359 CWS Vienna AU

Clayton, Wallace M 440823 257 Radio Operator 46359 CWS Vienna AU

Martin, James R 440823 257 Ball Turret 46359 CWS Vienna AU

Goldberg, Morris M 440823 257 Waist Gunner 46359 CWS Vienna AU

Reynolds, R L 440823 257 Waist Gunner 46359 CWS Vienna AU

Nelson, Maurice E 440823 257 Tail Gunner 46359 CWS Vienna AU

Thank you Kelly! So Russell flew with Bullock as well. This machine crashed very close to Zlin where I live today. 2 days ago I sent you German documents on this crash.
How are you and your family btw?
I´m wondering you were able to copy all the dates from their database in such a nice way. Everytime I wanted to post something from the database just a mess appeared...

we're great. The kids are out trick or treating right now. Been busy, but great photos of everything- barely time to check email lately- have a training I'm doing on Monday so a lot of planning.

As for the cut and paste.... hate to say it, but all I did was highlight, copied and pasted it in the reply with fingers crossed....wasn't sure what it was going to look like and was quite surprised when it pasted like it did!!

Still burning photo disks and making cards for everyone... should be in the mail soon

Hi Kelly,
3:16 am here and I´m still up.
Good to hear you family is O.K.

For the love of pete. go to sleep!!!

How is Tommy liking school??