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Hello JuhaHello Cimmex
according to Jones' De Havilland Twin-boom Fighters (2004) French ordered 30 ex-RAF Vampire F.1s in 1948, delivery was made in 4 weeks with the last a/c arriving on 8 Jan 1950. IMHO it is very probable that some of the French pilots who had flown He 162 in 1947 - 48 also flew Vampire F.1 later on during their career.
Juha
The truth is that all 1st generation jets had exceptionally poor low altitude endurance, which is why most of them received drop tanks sooner or later and were advised to cruise at high altitude.
Is that an R75 BMW with the driven third wheel? Great photo!!!
Unlike the Allies, the German jets were flying in a hostile environment and most likely needed to stay at high power levels at all times in order to avoid hostile attacks. This caused high fuel consumption. The He-162 would consume about 10-12 minutes of max power time just to start, takeoff and climbing to bomber altitude. This would leave less than 30 minutes for combat and return. Return would probably need 15 minutes of fuel for low speed draggy flight and reserve, and that leaves about 15 minutes or probably one run at the bombers before heading home. So, for 40 minutes of time, about half the time is spent in the most hazardous time of a jet fighters life, takeoff and landing. And that is for optimum temperature, for a hot day, much less. To really be effective, they needed a much longer endurance capability, so they could attack and re-attack several times before running the gauntlet back to reload.
Indeed, it´s a small airplane. But this makes it also harder to hit in combination with high levels of agility and speed. The installation of the engine outside the fuselage allowed the wing and fuselage space to be devoted entriely for fuel, weapons and flight controll. Thus, significant levels of space optimisation were exploited using this unconventional layout.There are other problems with the He-162. One is that it is very small with very little growth capability. The attached picture was taken at Chino Air Museum and was made at eye level. Note that I am, being six feet tall, effectively looking into the engine inlet. Also, note the motorcycle beside the plane and imagine a man sitting on the seat. It is close to the same position as the pilot in the He-162. The plane is tiny.
Another problem, and a larger one, is that it does not have much thrust and is very light, limiting weaponization options. Just adding fuel would create issues with wing loading and, more severly, thrust loading and a Republic aircraft-like takeoff roll.
Unlike the aircraft you listed, the P-51 could and did loiter for hours over a German airfield awaiting the departure or landing of a jet. And Germany could never produce enough to fend of the P-51s, P-47s, Spitfires and Tempests flying like bees overhead.
One may be tempted to add other things to its weaknesses, mainly that it was still a developmental airplane and in top of that a developmental one in mass production. Usually, an airplane gets through it´s prototype stage with the intent of the bugs beeing worked out and achieving a stabilised design which then will be submitted to the manufacturer. Here we have a case of trying to synchronise prototype testing and manufacturing changes, almost impossible.
What was produced was a plethora of individually slightly different airplanes, many of them limited in airspeed and thrust.
The desperation is what brought Heinkel the contract, but its not what created the airplane design. Within the group of competitors, Heinkel certainly deserved to get the contract as his entry was much more developed than the other ones.
While it may be desirable to stay at high powerlevels for reasons of survivability, it is not convincing to suggest that they need to fly at SL all the time where fuel consumption is worst in combination with high power. Take off and climb to 20,000ft of altitude at a gross weight of 2.85t. will take ~8 min with a climbing speed of about 200mph, rather than 10 to 12.
During this process, factoring in 200mph dynamic consumption, the fuel consumption at SL would be 1500ltr per hour while the fuel consumption at 20,000ft would be 800ltr per hour for an average of 1150ltr per hour during climb to altitude (reasonable margin of error) or 150ltr (40 US gallons) in total.
remaining 100% thrust endurance is 48 min (150 ltr have been used for take off, acceleration and climb to altitude, thus remaining are 800ltr).
That leaves about half an hour possible engagement time and 18/15 minutes return and descent time.
That´s still not exceptionally well but on the other hand useful compared to piston prop fighters like the Bf-109 which was useful in this capacity prior to the event of effective escort fighters.
And in my opinion, the He-162A is better suited for dogfight than interceptions, though installation of MK108 and R4M were considered for it, too.
Indeed, it´s a small airplane. But this makes it also harder to hit in combination with high levels of agility and speed.
The installation of the engine outside the fuselage allowed the wing and fuselage space to be devoted entriely for fuel, weapons and flight controll. Thus, significant levels of space optimisation were exploited using this unconventional layout.
That´s the point most people forget, the He-162A offered first class performance and endurance on one tiny low output engine, it´s nothing short but amazing how much they squeezed out of this airframe given the technology of the time.
I hate to sound dismissive, but this seems like a late war German pipe dream to me. Where are the engines? Where are the pilots?Production was not nearly ramped up and targeted in mid 45 to exceed 4,000 He-162 per month*. Already from june 45 onwards, the He-162A monthly production outpaces the combined allied monthly Meteor/ Vampire/ P80/ P51/P47/ Spitfire and Tempest production.
Now, if Germany had fielded a 2000 lb thrust centrifugal jet engine in late '43 and put it in this plane (it would probably fit), then that would have been a game changer and I think they could have done it with different priorities. (an old soapbox of mine).
There are many things the allies, particularly the British, could have done differently too. They were not forced into the desperate measures adopted by the Germans because they were winning without having to resort to them. They didn't have to rush a jet like the Me 262 prematurely into service, or fly death traps like the He 162 or, God forbid, the Ba 349 or Me 163.
So, other a/c burnt from hard landings.