The best thing about the Spitfire Mk XIV was that there were so few of them

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Jul 28, 2003
Chino, California, U.S.A.
What has all this got to do with the Spitfire XIV? Just sayin ....
if you search for this discussion later, you'd never imagine it would be in a thread about the Spitfire XIV.


Staff Sergeant
Oct 15, 2006
The Fw190A-6/R2 and Fw190A-8/R2 were fitted with the MK108 cannon pod.
No, the MK 108 was internally mounted in the outer wing position instead of the 2cm cannon. the /R3 had a MK 103 cannon pod but the recoil was way too strong so it was quickly abandoned


Staff Sergeant
Jul 24, 2005
Something of a myth.
.45 had a curved trajectory but the main problem was that most troops couldn't shoot it well. And at more than tree top height (60-80ft) many had no idea where to aim it.
They listened to barracks talk and most aimed too high.

Beat me to it.

I was going to say that even at 250 yards, a .45 ACP is still lethal.

The US Army did a bunch of testing, and they found the .45 out of a Thompson was good for about 4" of penetration against white pine boards at 250 yards. Estimates are that this would penetrate about 12" into a ballistics gel block at the same range. That's right at the lower end of the 'lethal' range. Even a non-lethal hit is going to mess up anyone that's not wearing body armour.

Add in the fact that you've got the extra forward velocity from the firing aircraft (~275 fps), plus the fact that gravity is helping and range isn't the issue people think it is.
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