The Falklands

Readie · Feb 19, 2012

In 1982 during the Falklands War Minerva was part of the 'Bristol Group' and thus joined the war rather late, not reaching the Falkland Islands until the 26th May. While there, Minerva performed a number of duties, including escort for other vessels.
She suffered no damage during her deployment during the Falklands War. She returned to Devonport in September, crowds greeting her upon her return.

Damage? what damage?

John

CharlesBronson · Feb 23, 2012

BL 755 Cluster Bomb in the Falklands.
Examining bomblets of the BL755 cluster munition dropped dropped by Sea Harrier on the Stanley airport, 3 may 1982. The damage done by 1000 pounds bombs launched by Avro Vulcan is also seen.
LiveLeak.com - BL 755 Cluster Bomb in the Falklands.

michaelmaltby · Feb 23, 2012

OT on the Falklands, but CB this ones for you:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmTIE2kDft4

MM

CharlesBronson · Feb 23, 2012

michaelmaltby said:
OT on the Falklands, but CB this ones for you:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmTIE2kDft4

MM

FOR ME ??? wen I did asked for a vid of actions in Iraq ?? I embedded an example of 30mm firing but I didnt put actual firing against living people but carboard targets in Japan.

I found all that (iraq) war dis gusting and complete unnecesary, both Argies and Brits are proud of his involvement in the Faklands war, complete the opposite happened in Iraq (sorry if offend anyone here but thats is how i feel) so please Michael refrain to post those kind of vids if not teh mods will close this down with th excuse I talking too much off-topic.

michaelmaltby · Feb 23, 2012

".... wen I did asked for a vid of actions in Iraq "

Never.

MM

michaelmaltby · Feb 29, 2012

More artistic guilt and self-loathing ...

Give Falklands to Argentina, says Pink Floyd star Waters | Falkland Islands News | The Week UK

I guess he's another brick in the wall

MM

Matt308 · Feb 29, 2012

CharlesBronson said:
FOR ME ??? wen I did asked for a vid of actions in Iraq ?? I embedded an example of 30mm firing but I didnt put actual firing against living people but carboard targets in Japan..

Wound a little tight today, CB?

CharlesBronson said:
FOR MEI found all that (iraq) war dis gusting and complete unnecesary, both Argies and Brits are proud of his involvement in the Faklands war, complete the opposite happened in Iraq (sorry if offend anyone here but thats is how i feel) so please Michael refrain to post those kind of vids if not teh mods will close this down with th excuse I talking too much off-topic.

You are not sorry. But appreciate false gesture. Even though you are absolutely wrong. Your personal emotions are affecting your logical reasoning. And no, nobody is going to shut down the thread for such a minor digression.

michaelmaltby · Mar 1, 2012

After Sean Penn, the experts have their say:

Falklands: after Sean Penn, the experts have their say | Falkland Islands News | The Week UK

MM

CharlesBronson · Mar 1, 2012

Matt308 said:
Wound a little tight today, CB?

You are not sorry. But appreciate false gesture. Even though you are absolutely wrong. Your personal emotions are affecting your logical reasoning. And no, nobody is going to shut down the thread for such a minor digression.

I am sorry indeed, because I feel that there was and there is very good people involved in a bad, dirty conflict. I know is a sensitive issue, I renew my apologies, I wont bring that topic to this discussion anymore.

michaelmaltby said:
More artistic guilt and self-loathing ...

Give Falklands to Argentina, says Pink Floyd star Waters | Falkland Islands News | The Week UK

I guess he's another brick in the wall

MM

I heard that guy bought a large, fancy estancia in the Santa Cruz province, Patagonia, because is fanatic of trout fishing...I guess that is the place he would take cover when the people in Britain start to throw some sharp objects to him.

Matt308 · Mar 1, 2012

Roger Waters... another musical hero caught up in his own political web of stupidity. He and Sean Penn should be lovers. I really wish that artists would be artists and politicians... farmers. The world would be a better place.

CB - Were most of the general purpose bombs used by Argentina effectively WWII era bombs. Specifically, the 500lb GP bombs that had time fuses that were known to travel through British ships and not detonate. Might you have some information?

michaelmaltby · Mar 2, 2012

".... I really wish that artists would be artists and politicians... farmers. The world would be a better place."

Just stick to "artists" ... without government "subsidies" (AKA the Canada Council Arts Grants). Please ... please ... keep the artists out of politics. .

"... a large, fancy estancia in the Santa Cruz province, Patagonia" God's Country

Chairs, CB

MM

CharlesBronson · Mar 2, 2012

Matt308 said:
Roger Waters... another musical hero caught up in his own political web of stupidity. He and Sean Penn should be lovers. I really wish that artists would be artists and politicians... farmers. The world would be a better place.

CB - Were most of the general purpose bombs used by Argentina effectively WWII era bombs. Specifically, the 500lb GP bombs that had time fuses that were known to travel through British ships and not detonate. Might you have some information?

Not exactly, the ww2 british bomb was the Mk 17, 1000 pounds, this weapon was bought along the Avro Lancaster, avro Lincoln, BAC Canberra so they were vailable in number. The bombs was designed for medium/high altitude drops so is quite logical that it didnt work too well and was tricky to fuse it correctly for sea skimming attack like the ones made by argentine aviation.

Glider · Mar 2, 2012

I think you will find that the RAF used the same bombs on the Vulcan raids, which were anything but low level

michaelmaltby · Mar 6, 2012

Scratch away ... and more details emerge:

BBC finds evidence that French helped Argentines sink our ships | Falkland Islands News | The Week UK

MM

Readie · Mar 6, 2012

Matt308 said:
Roger Waters... another musical hero caught up in his own political web of stupidity.

Self indulgence is any unpleasant side of Mr Waters. The university educated wealthy that we must still feel sorry for....

John

Readie · Mar 6, 2012

michaelmaltby said:
Scratch away ... and more details emerge:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZu8bvxJs4

I like the final comment on this you tube link.
Says it all really.
John

CharlesBronson · Mar 6, 2012

michaelmaltby said:
Scratch away ... and more details emerge:

BBC finds evidence that French helped Argentines sink our ships | Falkland Islands News | The Week UK

MM

And probably the BBC might find tomorrow that Bin Laden had a beard. In the other hand france sold the missile but wasnt very helpful after 2th april, several software limitations were solved by argentine naval technical officers.

A more detailed explanation of the attacks and how the exocet works you can find in my liveleak channel.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d53_1328821380

The Basket · Mar 7, 2012

It is known that there was a French team in Argentina with the Exocet Etendard combo.

It was A French weapon system after all. Question is whether they acted by themselves or acted with full knowledge of the French government.

The French were very helpful to the British so I have no problems with this. End of the day, the Etendards were Argentine so they pulled the trigger. And war is war. The Etendard pilots flew a top notch combat mission with a kill so fair play to them.

michaelmaltby · Mar 7, 2012

"... my liveleak channel."

Great link, CB. Thanks.

MM

CharlesBronson · Mar 7, 2012

The Basket said:
It is known that there was a French team in Argentina with the Exocet Etendard combo.

It was A French weapon system after all. Question is whether they acted by themselves or acted with full knowledge of the French government.

The French were very helpful to the British so I have no problems with this. End of the day, the Etendards were Argentine so they pulled the trigger. And war is war. The Etendard pilots flew a top notch combat mission with a kill so fair play to them.

Not confronting but complementing your post: The French team leaved argentina the 2th april in the afternoon following direct orders of Paris. Some of the training was still uncomplete, the software and procedures to comunicate range and location data between the CFS-Agave radar on the Super Etendard and the small radar and navegation inside Exocet wasnt fully teached to the argentines in that date and it had to be completed by local technical officers of the 2nd navy attack squadron.

michaelmaltby said:
"... my liveleak channel."

Great link, CB. Thanks.

MM

No problemo.

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