The first real jet engine

[Duske]

Very good search !

 

[Airframes]

To which post are you referring ?

I asked about your name out of interest. I had a friend, back in the 1980's and early 1990's, who came every year to the UK in his Jodel, and one of our mutual friends was a Flight Engineer.

 

[Duske]

If the Me 262 was serviceable to get into the air to deliver the shell, first getting through the fighter escort, and if there was sufficient fuel to get the serviceable Me 262 into the air, after towing it across the field with horses or bullocks.
There is no doubt that the Me 262 was the first jet to see active service, and the basics of the aircraft were sound - but, at the time, it was NOT a wonder weapon and, under the circumstances in the dwindling Reich at the time, never would be, especially the engines. Given time (which was not an option), with development, funding, testing and more experience of jet fighter operation, it could have turned out to be a superb machine, but the facts and figures already presented here show that this didn't happen, regardless of personal opinion, revisionist bull sh*t merchants, Santa Claus or the tooth fairy, so please, do yourself a favour, and stop digging a bigger hole which is rapidly filling up with effluent !

If the Me 262 was serviceable to get into the air to deliver the shell, first getting through the fighter escort, and if there was sufficient fuel to get the serviceable Me 262 into the air, after towing it across the field with horses or bullocks.
There is no doubt that the Me 262 was the first jet to see active service, and the basics of the aircraft were sound - but, at the time, it was NOT a wonder weapon and, under the circumstances in the dwindling Reich at the time, never would be, especially the engines. Given time (which was not an option), with development, funding, testing and more experience of jet fighter operation, it could have turned out to be a superb machine, but the facts and figures already presented here show that this didn't happen, regardless of personal opinion, revisionist bull sh*t merchants, Santa Claus or the tooth fairy, so please, do yourself a favour, and stop digging a bigger hole which is rapidly filling up with effluent !

Do not touch the Empire - Hendon will strafing you

 

[Marcel]

I will now use the ignore facility because you are driving me NuuuttttttzzzzZZZZZZZ.

Nothing new then

Do not touch the Empire - Hendon will strafing you

D Duske stop making those idiotic posts that make no sense or you are out of here.

 

[Duske]

To which post are you referring ?

I asked about your name out of interest. I had a friend, back in the 1980's and early 1990's, who came every year to the UK in his Jodel, and one of our mutual friends was a Flight Engineer.

Had some problems with my PC but now it works again. Due to data security I am not allowed to name any name.
At least that he is flying a "Arrow". Sorry to tell

 

[buffnut453]

Do not touch the Empire - Hendon will strafing you

Oh good grief. I'm out of this thread. This eejit just won't take the hint and won't drop some long-held affront...and consistently fails to answer questions about the "facts" he's generating.

I'm with pbehn and heading off to the Land of Nod because the alternative of participating in this thread is clearly a waste of my time.

 

[Duske]

Nothing new then



D Duske stop making those idiotic posts that make no sense or you are out of here.

Nothing new then



D Duske stop making those idiotic posts that make no sense or you are out of here.

I have no problem with that. I better stick to the US as they undestand what they have received from us - instead of a lot of junk from the UK before.
A Wernherr von Braun, German, did shoot the world into space. Got it ? What a low minded community.

 

[fubar57]

Oh good grief. I'm out of this thread. This eejit just won't take the hint and won't drop some long-held affront...and consistently fails to answer questions about the "facts" he's generating.

I'm with pbehn and heading off to the Land of Nod because the alternative of participating in this thread is clearly a waste of my time.

 

[Marcel]

I have no problem with that. I better stick to the US as they undestand what they have received from us - instead of a lot of junk from the UK before.
A Wernherr von Braun, German, did shoot the world into space. Got it ? What a low minded community.

Okay, you are out of here...

 

[Gnomey]

Well that was entertaining...

What a low minded community.

if he thinks we're low minded he must be an ameoba...

 

[Airframes]

I can think of a few better terms - opinionated, anglophobic pr*ck being one of the more polite ones !
And, given that he is German, how come he can't spell German names etc properly ?

 

[pbehn]

Gents, the simple act of using the ignore facility once turns this into a very informative thread on jet development in the early years, no information is lost at all, quite remarkable really.

 

[fubar57]

Gents, the simple act of using the ignore facility once turns this into a very informative thread on jet development in the early years, no information is lost at all, quite remarkable really.

I do that with the Zipper involved threads

 

[Marcel]

Gents, the simple act of using the ignore facility once turns this into a very informative thread on jet development in the early years, no information is lost at all, quite remarkable really.

So I'll leave it open. By all means, please add to the information here. But gentlemen, please leave you national pride out of it.

 

[fubar57]

So I'll leave it open. By all means, please add to the information here. But gentlemen, please leave you national pride out of it.

I have yet to start on the Canadian side of this discussion

 

[Marcel]

I have yet to start on the Canadian side of this discussion

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And I on the Dutch side

 

[pbehn]

I have yet to start on the Canadian side of this discussion

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Who did you steal that off?

 

[Graeme]

The Hortens stole from us.

 

[FLYBOYJ]

There was much more to grab than they could carry. I am talking about the thousands of Jet engines which went for overhauling each night by truck or train
between the airfields and factorys. Each Jet had to had two engines in spare for changing by knowing about the short TBO of 2 h. So Jet engines were stored all over Germany as some factories did the overhaul. 1400 Me 262 were build - times three = 4200 engines. This was a huge project as they had almost a complete underground production line installed for producing 1200 Me 262 a day !!! The short TBO only because they could not get Kobalt and Mangan for making the compressor blades heat resisting. But a flight time of two hours ment two combats. By sending down 3 or 4 bomber each time it was a very good result. The Me 262 was so dangerous because of it`s big cannons - 40mm. If one bullet did hit a wing spar the wing broke off. (explosiv bullets)

OK but I still don't know what you're trying to say. The allies evaluated captured German equipment but it wasn't by the thousands.

I think other posters showed the combat record for the -262. An innovative aircraft but too little too late.
EDIT
Ooops! Behind the power curve. I see the inevitable happened.

 

[Wurger]

...A Wernherr von Braun, German, did shoot the world into space. Got it ? .