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8. Rain?? Why not? The winds DO basically move north and south. They are deflected by the Coriolis Force (fictional). The flat disk Earth spinning would/could generate the same deflection. Bet this Gomer thinks the winds blow because trees wave back and forth. The uneven heating of the Earths surface would still produce warm moist air pockets which rise and colder dry pockets which fall
Man, you can really weave a good tale!People who do not understand Physics should NOT try to marshal arguments against people who know as little as they do:
1. GRAVITY - A flat disk Earth would show NO difference as every particle of matter attracts every other particle of matter. You as an individual have your own gravitational field. You as a particle of matter attract the Earth. By Newton's laws the attractions MUST be equal and opposite. If you weigh 150lbs(668N) then the Earth attracts you with 150lbs(668N) of force AND you attract the Earth with an EQUAL amount of force. Jump off of a chair and the Earths attraction force pulls you towards it AND YOU PULLING on the Earth move it towards YOU. You accelerate towards the Earth AND the Earth accelerate towards you. Earth's 6.0 X 10^24 kg mass is naturally accelerated a very small amount by 668N of force, much as jumping off a canoe towards a dock produces a vastly different result than jumping off a cruise liner.
Descend into a deep well and your weight decreases as the mass above you exerts its force upward.
Oh yea, so called GRAVITY is as much a fictional force as is CENTRIFUGAL FORCE.
2. No Magnetic field!! Even more ridiculous. Somebody better inform disk magnets that they can't have a magnetic field and therefore can't possibly work.
3. Since the flat disk Earth would and could have a magnetic field #3 No Navigation is a specious point.
4. Ah if only the atmosphere were that clear not to mention the affect on light as it passes through varying densities of air. Wonder if this guy ever heard of mirages. Light only seems to travel in a straight line. Then there are hills and valleys and mountains and smog.
5. Even the author admits here have tectonic plate movement is an unknown. The plates move because they "float" on a layer of magma. A flat Earth could certainly have a layer of magma. "Volcanoes would not work" Why not?? Volcanoes "produce!!" oxygen, WTF!! This Gomer must have slept through Biology class. Silly me always thought chlorophyll was responsible
6. A reasonable point though once again you must depend on navigation. Without visual reference points EVERYONE walks in a circle. Compasses depend on the magnetic field (see 2). Stellar navigation and GPS are valid arguements.
7. Seasons?? Why not? A flat disk can certainly wobble presenting one edge closer and further.
8. Rain?? Why not? The winds DO basically move north and south. They are deflected by the Coriolis Force (fictional). The flat disk Earth spinning would/could generate the same deflection. Bet this Gomer thinks the winds blow because trees wave back and forth. The uneven heating of the Earths surface would still produce warm moist air pockets which rise and colder dry pockets which fall
9. Finally some valid points though so called Gravity is indeed a fictional force.
10. At last validity
People who do not understand Physics should NOT try to marshal arguments against people who know as little as they do:
1. GRAVITY - A flat disk Earth would show NO difference as every particle of matter attracts every other particle of matter. You as an individual have your own gravitational field. You as a particle of matter attract the Earth. By Newton's laws the attractions MUST be equal and opposite. If you weigh 150lbs(668N) then the Earth attracts you with 150lbs(668N) of force AND you attract the Earth with an EQUAL amount of force. Jump off of a chair and the Earths attraction force pulls you towards it AND YOU PULLING on the Earth move it towards YOU. You accelerate towards the Earth AND the Earth accelerate towards you. Earth's 6.0 X 10^24 kg mass is naturally accelerated a very small amount by 668N of force, much as jumping off a canoe towards a dock produces a vastly different result than jumping off a cruise liner.
Descend into a deep well and your weight decreases as the mass above you exerts its force upward.
Oh yea, so called GRAVITY is as much a fictional force as is CENTRIFUGAL FORCE.
Freedom of speech allows a flat earth advocate to stand up and say what he believes. And that is right and proper.
Yes, but just because the idiot thinks that, doesn't mean that we have to listen to it without ridiculing it.
Sorry it does not. (a) it is not a force. (b) Newton's 1st Law: Objects in motion follow straight lines. Air moving North (or South) move in a straight line BUT the Earth is turning under themCoriolis confirms the spherical earth.
Sorry feeling don't count. And again gravity is fictional in exactly the same way that the "force" you "feel" pulling you towards the passenger-side of your car as you go around a curve is fictional. CENTRIFUGAL is NOT a force any more than is gravity. Your feeling not withstanding. OUTSIDE the car you can see that you are actually moving in a straight-line and the car is turning out from under you. You slide across the seat until the passenger door smacks you and applies a force to push you around the curveGravity is fictional? Do you not feel it all the time?
Sorry it is NOT a FORCE. The quote is not exact it is a simplification. The Earth is rotating on its axis and the speed of that rotation varies with latitude. The 30 degree N latitude circle has to turn faster (its circumference is longer) than the 45 degree N latitude circle (both must complete one rotation in 24 hours). The Earth rotates towards the east. A cannon ball fired due north from 30 degrees N latitude has a eastward velocity equal to the east velocity of its launch point. It maintains that east velocity as it moves north. The ground over which it passes is traveling east too but slower and slower the further north you travel. The cannonballs path is straight north BUT SEEN FROM THE GROUND the path APPEARS curved and it strikes to the right of where it was aimed. NO FORCE was ever applied to curve the balls path as it was always straight due north.experiences a force
So, wait, not only are we on a flat earth, but it's accelerating through space (or is the turtle climbing at an ever-increasing rate?)Sorry feeling don't count. And again gravity is fictional in exactly the same way that the "force" you "feel" pulling you towards the passenger-side of your car as you go around a curve is fictional. CENTRIFUGAL is NOT a force any more than is gravity. Your feeling not withstanding. OUTSIDE the car you can see that you are actually moving in a straight-line and the car is turning out from under you. You slide across the seat until the passenger door smacks you and applies a force to push you around the curve
Now to fictional Gravity Force. Suppose you are in a large box, no windows, no frame of reference besides the interior of the box. Next, the entire box is being accelerated at 32ft/sec/sec(9.8m/s/s). WITHIN the box if you jump up (direction of the acceleration) you will rise up but slower and slower due to friction, stop, and "fall" down (direction opposite the acceleration). SEE, Gravity at work "pulling" you down. Throw a ball up, it rises, stops, and falls. See Gravity at work pulling the ball down. Toss the ball across the box laterally, it follows a parabolic path striking the opposite wall below the point of launch. See, Gravity at work. Now the biggie - Shine a laser beam across the box - the beam BENDS striking the opposite wall below the level of the emitter. See, Gravity even affects light beams.
To see REALITY you must change your point of reference and step OUTSIDE the box. JUMPING: you jump, accelerating faster than the floor and move away from it. BUT friction slows you and the floor soon catches up to your feet, smacks them and pushes them up (direction of acceleration). BALL - throwing the ball up accelerates it faster than the floor, it moves up, friction slows it, the floor catches up and smacks the ball pushing it up. TOSS ACROSS - the balls up velocity remains constant once it leaves your hand AND it travels in a straight-line towards the opposite wall, but the floor is accelerating so it is moving faster and faster. It soon catches up to the ball and the ball strikes the wall below the point of launch. LASER- works the same way, the photons emitted have a constant UP velocity and it takes time for the beam to cross the box. During that time period the floor/wall have moved up a bit, thus the beam strikes the wall BELOW the point of launch.
Let's pretend it (Gravity) is real. Sorry again, but it simply does NOT invariably act toward the center of the Earth. EVERY particle of matter attracts every other particle. Gravity varies considerably over the Earths surface. That's how they find oil and minerals from aircraft. Using Calculus you can sum all the individual force vectors to a single vector at the Earth's center BUT IF you were at that point you would be weightless as all the Earth's mass would be above you