FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
From the best I got the Taliban only had a few aircraft available when the coalition invaded Afghanistan - those aircraft were destroyed on the opening strikes...
The Greatest Attack Aircraft of All Time...
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102first_hussars
Tech Sergeant
Ok hers why i asked the question, I was at an airshow in Moosejaw, there was an A-10 there, and over the loud speaker the guy was speaking about the battle history of the plane, now he mentioned 1 air to air kill over Afghanistan, so i took the time to look it up right after, i had found about a dozen results saying the same thing and when i tried looking it up again a few days ago, i got zilch so thats why i asked, i dunno, its confusing, maybe the results were false and "they'' got rid of them
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
My best sources show the only air-to-air kills by an A-10 happened during GW1.
Here's a site about the Afghan AF just prior to the invasion...
Afghanistan, 1979-2001; Part 3
102first_hussars
Tech Sergeant
They captured some of DRAAF aircraft in '92 is what i read
Yeah from what I know. All of the few taliban aircraft were destroyed on the ground in the cruise missle strikes.
102first_hussars
Tech Sergeant
Ok thankyou for the clarification, i guess either the airshow guy made a mistake or i misunderstood him.
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
I added a Poll to this thread to make it worthwhile.... The scoring is approximate... Please vote again...
Elvis
Chief Master Sergeant
Aw, gimmee a paper airplane and a firecracker. That'll knock the crap outa them!
(kidding
)
Funny, the A-10 and Jag are included and not the Mig-23 (BN).
During the Afghani war in the late 70's, that was pretty much Russia's "ace-in-the-hole", or at least thats the way it seemed.
I remember hearing about how the American military was impressed with how it handled itself during that conflict.
One thing it has over the A-10 is "Mach" capability, of course so does the Jaguar, I think.
...still, I voted for the A-10.
C'mon, its tougher than a bag or nails and its American!
Elvis
(kidding
)Funny, the A-10 and Jag are included and not the Mig-23 (BN).
During the Afghani war in the late 70's, that was pretty much Russia's "ace-in-the-hole", or at least thats the way it seemed.
I remember hearing about how the American military was impressed with how it handled itself during that conflict.
One thing it has over the A-10 is "Mach" capability, of course so does the Jaguar, I think.
...still, I voted for the A-10.
C'mon, its tougher than a bag or nails and its American!
Elvis
Lucky13
Forum Mascot
A-1 for me, all the way....that were flying destroyers as the story goes Korea I think it was.... I can't find the story, but the point is when the pilot had finished reporting to Marine on the ground, he asked "what the h*ll are you flying, destroyers?"
How does the maximum load compare to the A-10 and for how long could they stay in the air compared to each other?
Also, where's the A-6 Intruder??
How does the maximum load compare to the A-10 and for how long could they stay in the air compared to each other?
Also, where's the A-6 Intruder??
Elvis
Chief Master Sergeant
According to "Warbird Alley", the A-1 had a max. capacity of 14,450 lbs and a 900 mile range.
According to "Global Aircraft", the A-10 has a max. capacity of 25,400lbs. and a range of 800 miles.
I imagine, this is at a cruise speed in the 300-350 kt. range.
Hope that answers your question.
...oh yeah, and all the A-6's are stationed at Whidbey Island NAS, so if you're looking for one.... (kidding ).
I used to see them fly over my parents house, all the time, when I was kid.
Elvis
According to "Global Aircraft", the A-10 has a max. capacity of 25,400lbs. and a range of 800 miles.
I imagine, this is at a cruise speed in the 300-350 kt. range.
Hope that answers your question.
...oh yeah, and all the A-6's are stationed at Whidbey Island NAS, so if you're looking for one.... (kidding
).I used to see them fly over my parents house, all the time, when I was kid.
Elvis
snafud1
Senior Airman
The History channel did a show on attack aircraft of different era's and broke down every part of what was needed for that role and concluded the P-47 was the best attack aircraft up to this point. I wish I could recall the exact name of the episode . It was very detailed and descriptive.
Elvis
Chief Master Sergeant
snafud1,
Would that have been an episode of "Dogfights"?
If not, then probably something under the "Modern Marvels" series.
Elvis
Would that have been an episode of "Dogfights"?
If not, then probably something under the "Modern Marvels" series.
Elvis
snafud1
Senior Airman
I believe it was Modern Marvels now that you mention it.
davparlr
Senior Master Sergeant
I think that it is interesting that only one post identified the A-10 correctly as the Thunderbolt II, not the Lightning (Lightning II is the name of the F-35), and that was in a quote. That includes mine.
drgondog
Major
The A-10 took out a Iraqi/Sov helicopter with the gun.. but it was either tag end of the GW1 or immediately afterwards during a rare 'no fly zone' enforcement.
A-10 for me. When the discussion is Attack and not multi role - it is clearly the best at what is does. There are several fast movers that also do a good job, are more survivable in a hot air threat environment but in my opinion none as lethal to grunts/light skin and armor as this bad boy... and the USAF did it's best to shove it aside.
The Army kept it in the inventory when they continually crept into close air support role with new and better helos and 'scout' craft to fill the niche that A-10 would have left for them with no follow on replacement.
Long live the Key West accords
davparlr
Senior Master Sergeant
AF senior management is mostly fast movers and only want to talk fighters for everything. I think some things were lost when all fixed wing close air support went to the AF. I think the army would have held it more dear, like the marines.
Elvis
Chief Master Sergeant
A-10's had a tough life, that's for sure.
Anyone remember the crash at the Paris airshow? When was that, '77?
The A-10 program was JUST getting started back then and the crash was so sensationalized, it almost killed the program right then and there.
...then no major conflicts for about 15 years.
If it wasn't for Ronald Regan and Desert Storm, I think we'd be mentioning it today in questions like, "anyone remember the attack plane the Army / Air Force had in the 70's and 80's? What ever happened to it?"
30+ years later and its still sluggin' away. I think its safe to say, today, that the plane will be around for a while.
Elvis
Anyone remember the crash at the Paris airshow? When was that, '77?
The A-10 program was JUST getting started back then and the crash was so sensationalized, it almost killed the program right then and there.
...then no major conflicts for about 15 years.
If it wasn't for Ronald Regan and Desert Storm, I think we'd be mentioning it today in questions like, "anyone remember the attack plane the Army / Air Force had in the 70's and 80's? What ever happened to it?"
30+ years later and its still sluggin' away. I think its safe to say, today, that the plane will be around for a while.
Elvis
Luis Miguel Almeida
Airman 1st Class
A question!
Why isn´t it included the Fiat G-91 R/3 or R/4?
Why isn´t it included the Fiat G-91 R/3 or R/4?
Well lets be honest. While it was a good aircraft does it really rate as best of all time.
Luis Miguel Almeida
Airman 1st Class
Hi!
Probably more than some on the list!?
I let you judge that!
The G-91 entered service with the PoAF during the african war in our colonies! Going to Guiné in 1963, it operated there until 1974, also operated in Mozambique and Angola!
During eleven years only 3 Aircraft were shot down by SA-7 ofered by the soviets to the rebels. No losses to AAA, despite some aircraft being damaged, but even these were recuperated and flown until the end of the war!
Not comfirmed by PoAF, but confirmed by War veterans from both sides and the press is the encounter of 2 mig-15 and a mig-17 piloted by eastern-europe voluntears, and our g-91s, no losse of Portuguese aircraft.
The g-91 operated until 1993, that is 30 years of operational use for the same aircraft non stop. in the and it mad 75000 hours of fligth.
Do you know many aircraft that can do a 11 years war in thousands of combat operations in tropical climats in improvised runways, with a arms embargo achieving sucess in war if it was not one of the best?
I accept any opinion even if i don´t like it!
Probably more than some on the list!?
I let you judge that!
The G-91 entered service with the PoAF during the african war in our colonies! Going to Guiné in 1963, it operated there until 1974, also operated in Mozambique and Angola!
During eleven years only 3 Aircraft were shot down by SA-7 ofered by the soviets to the rebels. No losses to AAA, despite some aircraft being damaged, but even these were recuperated and flown until the end of the war!
Not comfirmed by PoAF, but confirmed by War veterans from both sides and the press is the encounter of 2 mig-15 and a mig-17 piloted by eastern-europe voluntears, and our g-91s, no losse of Portuguese aircraft.
The g-91 operated until 1993, that is 30 years of operational use for the same aircraft non stop. in the and it mad 75000 hours of fligth.
Do you know many aircraft that can do a 11 years war in thousands of combat operations in tropical climats in improvised runways, with a arms embargo achieving sucess in war if it was not one of the best?
I accept any opinion even if i don´t like it!
