The Guns We Own

[bobbysocks]

1911 - Full auto? didn't seem very fast, more like he was just pulling the trigger rapidly. ...

some are set up that way...why i have no clue. i was at a machinegun shoot many years ago. a guythere had a mauser broomhandle that was select fire...it shot faster in semi than it did in FULL. was somewhat amusing....

firing that 22 full auto like that is a good way to burn ( or lead ) up a barrel.

 

[Torch]

Your right, saw a cable show,forgot the name and they compared the Broomhandle to the Beretta 92fs both full auto versions and it was amazing how faster the 92 cycled,on the other hand shot placement was a tad better with the broomhandle(stock or slower rate of fire)

 

[javlin]

The only thing you have with that 22lr MG is shot placement.If your opponnet is with 150yds wether you hit him with 1 .308 150g in CoM or the 22lr 10 times+ @30g (300g) I think the bleed out from the mg would be much worse.

 

[muscogeemike]

Better idea...drop those gangsta douchebags into the middle-east hotspots and let them see what real hate is all about.

Looking all 'badass", posing and waving a 9mm will last about 30 seconds there...

Remember those stupid movies about sending the Hell's Angels to VN!

 

[yulzari]

Bought an Enfield Snider barrel/shoe which was described as smooth bored. Gave it a clean today and it has a full set of nice as new 147 year old rifling hidden under the muck in the barrel. It can now replace the 20 bore smooth bore version in my stock. Now to make a mould for the bullets. SWMBO will probably now want me to sit the Chasse exam to have her supplied with deer and boar.

 

[oldcrowcv63]

Remember those stupid movies about sending the Hell's Angels to VN!

Or the ones where Viet vets come home and take on the rogue bikers? There was a whole generation of biker vs vet movies culminating in the really awful spoof: 'Surf Nazi's Must Die!' which had nothing to do with vets OR bikers as far as I can tell….But did have one bad a**, grenade-packing grandma .

Is that meatloaf109 riding that surfboard. I want his autograph!!

 

[Matt308]

Here's one for you guys...

Went to the mountains with my wife and boy and shot a bit. I put about 100rds of store bought (not reloads) .38spl and .357mag through my S&W Model 66-4. As usual, I saved my brass to reload. I get back home and sorted them only to discover that out of the box of 50 .38spl, I had about 7-8 split cases... right in the middle lengthwise. Primers are not bulged.

Now this is the first time I have shot this gun (was my dad's until he passed) and it was given to him used. The gun is in mint condition and looks to either have been shot VERY little or not at all (a clue perhaps?).

I'm thinking that either:

1) Overly hot batch of .38spl (didn't feel like it) and over pressure split case (but not bulge the primer caps?)

2) I had a bad batch of .38spl with brass walls of the case too thin

3) I have a cylinder out of spec (wish I had paid attention as I unloaded to confirm this and I had an odd number of rounds to just do the math for logical deduction)

4) Combination of the above

Thoughts?

 

[muscogeemike]

Matt308 I don't know enough to be of any help to you but talking of .38 spl and .357 mag - does anyone know of a simi-auto carbine or rifle which fire these rounds?
I know of lever and bolt action models but I'm interested in a simi-auto.

 

[Matt308]

With rimmed cases, you are stuck my friend. There used to be some semi-autos that were based upon the Ruger 10/22 (I only recall .44mag), but I must guess that lack of availability must mean problems.

If you want .357mag performance, get an M1 Carbine. If you want 30-30 performance get an SKS/AK. Otherwise, you are stuck with Hipoint or Beretta.

 

[muscogeemike]

Thanks anyway.

 

[Matt308]

Its not a loss! You can get carbine length rifles that use popular mags (glock, baretta, ruger, etc), but your caliber choices will be pistol cartidges (e.g., 9mm, .40cal, .45ACP, etc) I have read nothing but good on the the Hipoint carbines. And they are dirt cheap.

 

[meatloaf109]

Or the ones where Viet vets come home and take on the rogue bikers? There was a whole generation of biker vs vet movies culminating in the really awful spoof: 'Surf Nazi's Must Die!' which had nothing to do with vets OR bikers as far as I can tell….But did have one bad a**, grenade-packing grandma .

Is that meatloaf109 riding that surfboard. I want his autograph!!

My autograph is available.
Send money.
The more money the better the autograph.

 

[Torch]

split cases could be too many reloads on the brass, or too hot of a load.

 

[Shortround6]

Here's one for you guys...

Went to the mountains with my wife and boy and shot a bit. I put about 100rds of store bought (not reloads) .38spl and .357mag through my S&W Model 66-4. As usual, I saved my brass to reload. I get back home and sorted them only to discover that out of the box of 50 .38spl, I had about 7-8 split cases... right in the middle lengthwise. Primers are not bulged.

Now this is the first time I have shot this gun (was my dad's until he passed) and it was given to him used. The gun is in mint condition and looks to either have been shot VERY little or not at all (a clue perhaps?).

I'm thinking that either:

1) Overly hot batch of .38spl (didn't feel like it) and over pressure split case (but not bulge the primer caps?)

2) I had a bad batch of .38spl with brass walls of the case too thin

3) I have a cylinder out of spec (wish I had paid attention as I unloaded to confirm this and I had an odd number of rounds to just do the math for logical deduction)

4) Combination of the above

Thoughts?

Could just be a bad lot of brass. If NONE of .357 cases split fired in the same gun something is out of wack with the ammo, not the gun. Or a combination of one over sized chamber and the .38 brass being thinner and/or less ductile than the .357 brass.

 

[Matt308]

Yeah, I need do the chamber test with some .38spl to see. With .357mag brass thicker in the walls, I don't think I can use that as a means of elimination. I looked again and I have 9 split cases. I recall that I had about 55-60 .38s shot and the math implies I might have an oversize chamber. I would find that hard to believe though. The split in the brass is located in the exact same spot and all are pretty much uniform in location with only the size of the crack differing in length. Coincidence? Man I hope so! I love this gun!

Guess I'll just have to shoot some more to find out.

 

[mikewint]

Matt, not that I am any kind of expert but I'd probably start with a good gunsmith that can checkout the chamber/entire gun. If that checks out I'd try a totally different brand of ammo. I've been shooting .38 and .357 in the Python and never had any cases split.

 

[Matt308]

...yeah it is a bit worrisome.

 

[mikewint]

When I bought the German Luger the gunsmith was the first stop. Exploding guns are not a good thing

 

[Shortround6]

Just an odd thought but is there a burr on the chamber mouth, or more likely on the extractor that could be scoring the brass and making a weak point as you chamber the round?

One chamber is harder to push the rounds in than the others? Or load and extract without firing and inspect cases.

For an over size chamber one would expect to see a bulge in the case above the web ( 0.150-.200" above the rim) or a greater bulge than the than the non-split cases. Can you mike the fired cases?

 

[Matt308]

No bulges whatsoever on any brass fired. Just a longitudinal crack.