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Looking up other stuff I came across thisHi
Not exactly 'new' but not as advanced as later sets. The British were using voice to and from its fighters (a requirement for the air defence system) from the Gloster Grebe (not counting WW1 use) HF T.25 transmitter and R.31 Receiver from the mid-1920, in the 1930s this was replaced by the TR 9 series. While I don't think the FAA Fairey Flycatcher was fitted with voice (R/T) its replacement the Hawker Nimrod was (by TR 9 according to various sources) in the early 1930s. I would presume the US Navy and US Army were doing the same so most 'veterans' should have been used to using it by WW2. Morse sets were longer ranged of course and they would have been in use by naval air throughout the inter-war period, although operator skill would have been a major factor plus reliability but still more reliable than in WW1.
Mike
I agree; I could be mistaken. When you start with something you're pretty confident about, but then the discussion gets added to faster and faster and more and more things are being looked up on the fly, it is entirely possible that some of that new information should be modified thusly "I have read some claims that American gunnery was better than Japanese gunnery, even at the very beginning." Those claims could well be unreliable. I stand corrected.I've been studying this for more than 50 years, and I don't believe that is the case. I could be mistaken. So could you.
Are any of your sources from the WWII era, or are they later than about 1955, when people started making things up about the war?
I have been putting the emphasis on most. I don't mean to imply it is the only over-rated plane. It is just the most over-rated.. . .and it does not deserve the title the one most overrated plane of ww2.
It's a valid point. However, i believe it is the Wildcat that is very much better than the average on this count, and so it's not as such an exceptional fault with the zero. I doubt very much that a Spitfire, a La-5 or a P-51 (to name a few) had a marked advantage over the zero in this respect.Having said that, I think that R Leonard's remarks about cockpit visibility and shooting technique in a Zero are persuasive, and match with the schematic drawings that I have studied (a Wildcat nose has a definite downward slope forward of the canopy; a Zero's nose does not). Add that to what we know about the lower muzzle velocity (and therefore the need for a higher shooting angle, i.e. a slightly raised nose) of the Zero's 20mm cannon, and I will accept those remarks as reliable.
Nice post. I get what you are saying. As to that other thread, I still can't see anyone voting for the C-47 as overrated. Some of those things are still earning a paycheck.I have been putting the emphasis on most. I don't mean to imply it is the only over-rated plane. It is just the most over-rated.
Take the P-51. It "won" the vote in that other thread, and the Spitfire placed third, but both of those planes are really good airplanes. Those who call them over-rated are, I'm pretty sure, willing to admit that they are good, with multiple strong points, but they are not as good as the hype. Therefore they are over-rated (in their opinion; I happen not to agree). The Zero, on the other hand, had strong and weak points that pretty much canceled each other out, but in early 1942 everybody was focusing on the strong points and hardly noticing the weaknesses. But with the benefit of hindsight we can see that the Zero really wasn't much, if any, better than the supposedly clumsy Wildcats that it flew against. Vastly different from the Widcat, but not better. Hence it wins the most over-rated prize.
You're not going to make an accurate assessment based on "a schematic." The only way you're really going to get a perspective if you actually SIT in the real aircraft, and your opinions about what you're seeing (or feeling) may be based on your height and body size. I've had the opportunity to sit in several WW2 fighters (P-51, P-38, Bf-109, and a Hawker Fury. My perspective of what I thought the cockpit would be like was totally different from what I experienced, now mind you I was in street clothes and not sitting on a parachute, even then totally different from what I envisioned.Having said that, I think that R Leonard's remarks about cockpit visibility and shooting technique in a Zero are persuasive, and match with the schematic drawings that I have studied (a Wildcat nose has a definite downward slope forward of the canopy; a Zero's nose does not).
Actually compared to what I have flown, both general aviation and jet aircraft, I find the WW2 fighters I've sat in very simplistic. Once you learn to fly you'll easily recognize basic instruments for both flight and monitoring engine performance. For the most part most instruments and controls are similarly placed. After that it's a matter of training.Yes but you know how to drive a plane. Modern that is if i am not mistaken. So how would you value the instrument lay out and ( hope it is a word) workability under stress? Modern vs WW2 war machines. Not in combat, but i am sure you can think up a scenario difficult just flying. Are the dials for a modern pilot in the right place..that kind of stuff.
So if you have a few minutes i would like to hear your opinion please.
The Zero wing was one continual structure - I believe other components will fail before a wing would tear off. This has been discussed several times on this form. I have never seen combat reports of this continually happening and IMO if it did happen it was probably due to previous battle damage.Zeros were also structurally weak allowing wing break Which the wildcats never suffered from.
The Spitfire 190 109 and P51 could both disengage and re-engage from a fight with an A6M when they chose too, all four had the speed to run from an A6M and likewise run an A6M down, all four were protected from the A6M's guns bar the latter's 20mm's AP ammunition yet it was venerable from every type of the formers guns, even the generic .303 30/06 8x57 ball ammunition. The A6M had very long range which seems to be it's selling point, the allies could have stripped any number of their planes down to the A6M's spec, I used a PR Spit as an example and could have also had its range and low speed agility but all that would have resulted in is more Marianas Turkey shoot's, the Luftwaffe's found that out when they stripped their 109's to make them competitive with the Mustang late in the war.I doubt very much that a Spitfire, a La-5 or a P-51 (to name a few) had a marked advantage over the zero in this respect.
I stand correctedThe Zero wing was one continual structure - I believe other components will fail before a wing would tear off. This has been discussed several times on this form. I have never seen combat reports of this continually happening and IMO if it did happen it was probably due to previous battle damage.
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The KI-43 (the "other" zero) is the one with structural issues with their wings.