The piece of paper that fooled Hitler

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Ctrain, arguement is not a problem but you cannot argue about results. If the allied forces did not think disinformation was important would they have spent so much time and energy on it with a major invasion in the works.
The key element of Fortitude South was Operation Quicksilver. It entailed the creation of the belief in German minds that the Allied force consisted of two army groups, 21st Army Group under Montgomery (the genuine Normandy invasion force), and 1st U.S. Army Group (FUSAG) (a fictitious force under General George Patton), positioned in southeastern England for a crossing at the Pas de Calais.
At no point were the Germans fed false documents describing the invasion plans. Instead they were allowed to construct a misleading order of battle for the Allied forces. To mount a massive invasion of Europe from England, military planners had little choice but to stage units around the country with those that would land first nearest to the embarkation point. As a result of FUSAG's having been placed in the south-east, German intelligence would (and did) deduce that the center of the invasion force was opposite Calais, the point on the French coast closest to England and therefore a likely landing point.
To facilitate this deception, additional buildings were constructed; dummy vehicles and landing craft were placed around possible embarkation points. Furthermore, Patton was often photographed visiting these locations. It was originally intended to make many such fakes, but the extremely low level of German aerial reconnaissance and the belief that most German spies were under British control meant that such effort were reduced to a minimum. A huge amount of false radio traffic was transmitted, commensurate with a force of that size.
A deception of such a size required input from many organisations, including MI5, MI6, SHAEF via Ops B, and the armed services. Information from the various deception agencies was organized by and channeled through the London Controlling Section under the direction of Lieutenant-Colonel John Bevan.
The Allies were able to judge the effectiveness of these strategies. ULTRA intelligence — that gained from the breaking of German codes and ciphers, such as the Enigma machine — was able to provide an indication of the German high command's responses to their actions. They maintained the pretence of FUSAG and other forces threatening Pas de Calais for some considerable time after D-Day, possibly even as late as September 1944. This was vital to the success of the Allied plan, since it forced the Germans to keep most of their reserves bottled up waiting for an attack on Calais which never came, thereby allowing the Allies to maintain and build upon their marginal foothold in Normandy.
So convinced were the Germans by this deception that they ignored several "leaks". One such leak was the crossword that came out in The Herald and Review six days before the beach landings were to take place. Some of the answers consisted of Overlord, Neptune, Gold and other key terms to the invasions; the US government later declared that this was just a coincidence. Through the Cicero affair, the Germans obtained documents containing references to Overlord, but these documents lacked all detail. Double Cross agents, such as Juan Pujol (code named Garbo), played an important role in convincing the German High Command that Normandy was at best a diversionary attack. U.S. Major General Henry Miller, chief supply officer of the US 9th Air Force, during a party at Claridge's Hotel in London complained to guests of the supply problems he was having but that after the invasion, which he told them would be before 15 June supply would be easier. After being told, Eisenhower reduced Miller to Colonel and sent him back to the U.S. where he subsequently retired. Another such leak was Gen. Charles de Gaulle's radio message after D-Day. He, unlike all the other leaders, stated that this invasion was the real invasion. This had the potential to ruin the Allied deceptions Fortitude North and Fortitude South. For example, Gen. Eisenhower referred to the landings as the initial landings.
 
I mentioned some books before,read,learn.If the enemy does what is logical then why do u you attribute that to ''disinformation'' ?
I'v read a lot on intelligence in ww2.So i get mad when i read things that are patently false.

If the enemy does what is "logical" based off of false information, then that is "disinformation". How do you attribute that to anything else.

I have actually sat in on intel briefs before flying combat missions. The information received was not always accurate. That is the point.
 
Ctrain, arguement is not a problem but you cannot argue about results. If the allied forces did not think disinformation was important would they have spent so much time and energy on it with a major invasion in the works.
The key element of Fortitude South was Operation Quicksilver. It entailed the creation of the belief in German minds that the Allied force consisted of two army groups, 21st Army Group under Montgomery (the genuine Normandy invasion force), and 1st U.S. Army Group (FUSAG) (a fictitious force under General George Patton), positioned in southeastern England for a crossing at the Pas de Calais.
At no point were the Germans fed false documents describing the invasion plans. Instead they were allowed to construct a misleading order of battle for the Allied forces. To mount a massive invasion of Europe from England, military planners had little choice but to stage units around the country with those that would land first nearest to the embarkation point. As a result of FUSAG's having been placed in the south-east, German intelligence would (and did) deduce that the center of the invasion force was opposite Calais, the point on the French coast closest to England and therefore a likely landing point.
To facilitate this deception, additional buildings were constructed; dummy vehicles and landing craft were placed around possible embarkation points. Furthermore, Patton was often photographed visiting these locations. It was originally intended to make many such fakes, but the extremely low level of German aerial reconnaissance and the belief that most German spies were under British control meant that such effort were reduced to a minimum. A huge amount of false radio traffic was transmitted, commensurate with a force of that size.
A deception of such a size required input from many organisations, including MI5, MI6, SHAEF via Ops B, and the armed services. Information from the various deception agencies was organized by and channeled through the London Controlling Section under the direction of Lieutenant-Colonel John Bevan.
The Allies were able to judge the effectiveness of these strategies. ULTRA intelligence — that gained from the breaking of German codes and ciphers, such as the Enigma machine — was able to provide an indication of the German high command's responses to their actions. They maintained the pretence of FUSAG and other forces threatening Pas de Calais for some considerable time after D-Day, possibly even as late as September 1944. This was vital to the success of the Allied plan, since it forced the Germans to keep most of their reserves bottled up waiting for an attack on Calais which never came, thereby allowing the Allies to maintain and build upon their marginal foothold in Normandy.
So convinced were the Germans by this deception that they ignored several "leaks". One such leak was the crossword that came out in The Herald and Review six days before the beach landings were to take place. Some of the answers consisted of Overlord, Neptune, Gold and other key terms to the invasions; the US government later declared that this was just a coincidence. Through the Cicero affair, the Germans obtained documents containing references to Overlord, but these documents lacked all detail. Double Cross agents, such as Juan Pujol (code named Garbo), played an important role in convincing the German High Command that Normandy was at best a diversionary attack. U.S. Major General Henry Miller, chief supply officer of the US 9th Air Force, during a party at Claridge's Hotel in London complained to guests of the supply problems he was having but that after the invasion, which he told them would be before 15 June supply would be easier. After being told, Eisenhower reduced Miller to Colonel and sent him back to the U.S. where he subsequently retired. Another such leak was Gen. Charles de Gaulle's radio message after D-Day. He, unlike all the other leaders, stated that this invasion was the real invasion. This had the potential to ruin the Allied deceptions Fortitude North and Fortitude South. For example, Gen. Eisenhower referred to the landings as the initial landings.

Mike i will agree with you that the Anglos spent a lot of resources on the fortitude plan (as they should) HOWEVER their victory in Normandy had everything to do with the material resources at their disposal. The whole Fortitude plan reinforced the German belief in the Calais landing ,it didn't not create it. The Germans had always expected a landing there, before fortitude during and after. As for the dummy ships and the fake radio messages they were either marginally effective or completely missed by the Germans.The chapter ''Deception and the planning of D-Day'' by Barbier in ''The Normandy campaign 1944: sixty years on'' is very interesting in this aspect.
 
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I dont understand what you're trying to say.How could the allies NOT outnumber the germans?
Ok, if it was just that easy, why didn't the Allies simply bum-rush the Germans at the beginning of the war?

You say you have alot of info regarding intel yet you toss off the notion of counter-intelligence as a propeganda ruse instead of seeing how vital it was to the outcome of the war.

Yes, there was a numerical advantage with the Allies, but in the grand scheme of things, the Germans were VERY good at bleeding out thier opponents. A shining example of that would be the horrific losses the Soviets suffered. And yet the Soviets outnumbered the Germans...

Breaking the Enigma code and baiting the Germans with misinformation caused the Germans to apply thier assets in areas away from Allied operations that would ultimately save Allied lives and allow for relatively unopposed access to the European continent.

Once the Allies gained a foothold on European soil, the Germans were faced with two collapsing fronts, much like being caught between a hammer and an anvil.

And as a MAJOR example, the battle of Midway in the Pacific was won by breaking the Japanese code and reacting on that information. Breaking the Axis power's codes and baiting them with misinformation was as critical of a tool as was the infantry on the ground or aircraft over the front.

You CANNOT discredit the key role that the espionage played in any aspect of the war. To do so is simply being ignorant of ACTUAL FACT, regardless of your "opinion"...
 
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If the enemy does what is "logical" based off of false information, then that is "disinformation". How do you attribute that to anything else.

I have actually sat in on intel briefs before flying combat missions. The information received was not always accurate. That is the point.

Because it made no sense for the Germans to leave the Calais area undefended. They built up their defenses there before ,during and after the allied disinformation plan.It was simply the normal, logical way to prepare for an invasion of France.Their mobile forces on the other hand where not concentrated there but ready to move either in Calais or Normandy.Disinformation had nothing to do with the limited number of battle worthy german formations in the West at that time.
 
Ok, if it was just that easy, why didn't the Allies simply bum-rush the Germans at the beginning of the war?

You say you have alot of info regarding intel yet you toss off the notion of counter-intelligence as a propeganda ruse instead of seeing how vital it was to the outcome of the war.

Yes, there was a numerical advantage with the Allies, but in the grand scheme of things, the Germans were VERY good at bleeding out thier opponents. A shining example of that would be the horrific losses the Soviets suffered. And yet the Soviets outnumbered the Germans...

Breaking the Enigma code and baiting the Germans with misinformation caused the Germans to apply thier assets in areas away from Allied operations that would ultimately save Allied lives and allow for relatively unopposed access to the European continent.

Once the Allies gained a foothold on European soil, the Germans were faced with two collapsing fronts, much like being caught between a hammer and an anvil.

And as a MAJOR example, the battle of Midway in the Pacific was won by breaking the Japanese code and reacting on that information. Breaking the Axis power's codes and baiting them with misinformation was as critical of a tool as was the infantry on the ground or aircraft over the front.

You CANNOT discredit the key role that the espionage played in any aspect of the war. To do so is simply being ignorant of ACTUAL FACT, regardless of your "opinion"...

You mix up Humint ,Sigint , espionage,counter-intelligence and so on.Of course both offensive and defensive intel operations are important.How do you think the Germans won in France ,they could read the enemy's codes.Same in Russia 85% of soviet communications were read.In this case however the Germans used the limited forces they had at their disposal in the best (more or less ) way.The German formations were low on trucks and fuel.Most were undergoing training and were not battle worthy.Considering the allied strength and their control of the seas they could land anywhere they wanted but the Germans couldn't be strong everywhere. Look what happened at Gela and Salerno.In Normandy the allies had much better odds ,is it strange that they won?
 
The ''germans were so dumb we tricked them and won the war '' story has been debunked years ago.First from zetterling's ''Normandy 1944'' book and recently from Mary Barbier's ''D-day deception: Operation Fortitude and the Normandy invasion'' .Yes disinformation played a part but writing whole books on the subject and claiming that it was vital for the normandy victory is simply crude propaganda

Nobody claims that it was the main reason for victory, but it played an imortant part.

The Allies were able to judge the effectiveness of these strategies. ULTRA intelligence — that gained from the breaking of German codes and ciphers, such as the Enigma machine — was able to provide an indication of the German high command's responses to their actions. They maintained the pretence of FUSAG and other forces threatening Pas de Calais for some considerable time after D-Day, possibly even as late as September 1944. This was vital to the success of the Allied plan, since it forced the Germans to keep most of their reserves bottled up waiting for an attack on Calais which never came, thereby allowing the Allies to maintain and build upon their marginal foothold in Normandy..

Great post Mike.

No it wasn't vital, because the Anglo-Americans already had overwhelming superiority in men ,tanks,artillery,aircraft etc.
Hmm, just like the Italians had an overwhelming superiority in Africa in 1940?
4 to 1 in troops
12 to 1 in artillery
2 to 1 in tanks
2 to 1 in aircraft.

Of course with this overwhelming superiority the Italians won, right? :rolleyes:
 
Trolls. Gotta love em. Salerno and Anzio could have had very different turnouts, had the generals in overall command of the landing forces not stopped to brew up some tea and consolidate their forces....thus giving the Germans time to rush troops in to reinforce the outnumbered troops already in the target area. Italy's terrain, with all of its mountain ranges, is pretty much custom-designed for defense. If the Allies had continued the initial landings to take the high ground, the German army could have been routed much easier, and not had time to prepare alternate defensive lines to fall back to.

In Normandy, as Mike stated, if Hitler had not been convinced (due to disinformation) that the main attack would be by Patton at Pas de Calais, all those crack troops and desperately-needed Panzers (not to mention 88s and 155s that caused so much havoc at Omaha) could have been rushed towards the sound of gunfire, and either contained the landings, or even forced the evacuation of one or more beachhead. Omaha, for example, was a near thing. Had individual platoon commanders and NCO's not taken charge and started a small trickle of men heading up the seawall and bluff, then those bottled up on the beach would have been slaughtered, taken POW, or evacuated. Reinforcements were stopped due to the appalling conditions on the beach. If Omaha were lost, then that leaves a very large gaping hole between Utah and Gold, allowing Utah to be cleaned up in detail (no support on their left flank); all of the paratroopers isolated in and around the countryside could expect no relief/resupply, allowing them to be cleaned up at leisure (or, worst case, surrounded and effectively out of the battle); Juno, Gold, and Sword beaches would be mutually supporting, but there would only be a three-beach front vs a five-beach front, much easier to contain. Plus, all of the troops, tanks, and artillery (not to mention supplies) could be moved wherever needed to ensure nobody broke out of the beachheads. So, all those massive amounts of overwhelming manpower, firepower, equipment, etc, that were sitting so conveniently over in England, would have nowhere to land. They are, at that point, effectively useless. By cutting off the beaches, Hitler would have very effectively nullified their numerical superiority. However, he didn't....why? Because he was convinced, partly due to his own insistence in his tactical genius, and partly due to the preponderance of "evidence" (the previously mentioned coded radio traffic that pointed to a 1st US Army Group ready to pounce on the Pas de Calais), that the Normandy landings were nothing but a feint designed to draw his best troops away from the actual landing site. The German High Command was also convinced that the Allies had something like 75 divisions waiting to drop on Europe, which would make a landing by 5 or so divisions a logical diversion.

So, yes, deception played a vital role in the war in Europe.
 

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Moronic posts , circular reasoning...
From the book i mentioned earlier:
''No one can doubt that the FORTITUDE deception plan had an effect on the Allies' success in Normandy, but the extent of that effect can be questioned. When reaching a conclusion about the importance of FORTITUDE one must first consider whether or not the deception operation was a success. Most historians who mention the deception do so in terms of the success, not the importance, of the scheme. Several of them intimate that success and importance are synonymous and praise FORTITUDE, because it appeared to be successful. They fail, however, to address the issue of which part or parts of the operation — wireless transmissions, physical displays or double agents' messages — successfully transmitted the cover story to the Germans. In general, historians rely upon analyses of the deception's outcome by Sir Ronald Wingate and Roger Hesketh. Both men served on the LCS and. wrote accounts of the planning, implementation and outcome of FORTITUDE. Although he suggested that the deception succeeded in disguising the time and place of the Allied invasion from the Germans, Wingate conceded that not all aspects of the plan contributed to the Germans' acceptance of the fictitious threat. According to Wingate, the OKW Lagebericht (intelligence summary) indicated that the Germans accepted all of the imaginary formations that participated in FORTITUDE as real. He admitted, however, that the OKW might not have obtained its information about these formations from the wealth of wireless traffic sent out over the airwaves as part of the deception: 'It is rather surprising to note that the OKW Lagebericht provides no single example of the wireless programme having brought any item in the FORTITUDE story to the knowledge of the Germans in the first instance. There are a few rare cases where the "Y" report purports to confirm Intelligence which has already been supplied by one of the controlled agents. In addition, the Germans apparently failed to observe the numerous displays of fake landing craft, supply depots, airfields and army camps. The OKW Lagebericht did not, according to Wingate, indicate the presence of landing craft in south-east England, primarily because few German aircraft succeeded in flying reconnaissance missions over the area either before or after Allied troops arrived in Normandy. Wingate concluded, `every phase in the story can be directly attributed to the three double-cross agents, GARBO, BRUTUS, and TRICYCLE. Individual messages can be checked with passages in the German Intelligence Summary'. Wingate did not, however, suggest that Allied deception teams should not have transmitted wireless messages or displayed dummy landing craft, which he called 'valuable insurance, the omission of which might on another occasion cause disastrous results'. Although the lack of enemy reconnaissance flights explained the Germans' lack of awareness of the physical displays, Wingate admitted that he did not understand why the wireless programme failed to gamer German attention.''

Source: ''The Normandy campaign 1944: sixty years on'' p176,177
 
Moronic posts , circular reasoning...
A thousand pardons, your Lordship...please let me kiss the bottom of your sandals...NOT

I think the debate has run it's course, all points have been considered and taken...however, your referring to the rebuttal as "moronic" leaves me with only one thought regarding your self-absorbed argument...the rantings of an egocentric dumbass.

I think I'll sit this one out, before I get busted...
 
Their mobile forces on the other hand where not concentrated there but ready to move either in Calais or Normandy.

As you stated. The point being that the disinformation plan had been swallowed hook, line, and sinker by the Germans. Therefore those mobile forces were no longer mobile and did NOT move as they should have against the forming beach heads. The time to stop the allied forces was on the beachheads BEFORE more troops and heavy equipment were in place.
By the time Hitler released those forces it was to late and the Germans faced a true two front war
 
This is getting tiring ,but I'll bite..
Before operation Overlord started the Germans had 10 mechanized divisions in Western Europe.They were scattered over France and Belgium because they were resting ,training replacements and refitting .Out of these only 4 could be considered combat ready and only 2nd Panzer Division was complete and fully combat ready .Since the Germans anticipated Allied landings at Pas de Calais and Normandy they placed 2nd PD near Pas de Calais and 21st PD in Normandy.The other two ( Panzer Lehr and Hitlerjuge nd) were placed farther from the coast to constitute a reserve. That's the mighty force that was supposed to throw the allies to the sea.
 
But, the reserve forces were not thrown into the mix right away because the Germans completely, 100%, totally believed the landings at Normandy were merely a diversion to take attention, men, materials away from the "real" attack at Pas de Calais. When higher ups in the German chain of command were asked to send in reinforcements, they request was denied because the Germans "knew" Normandy was a diversion, due to disinformation, false reports, false army traffic, mis-intelligence. Many reserves units did not get called into action until the following day.
 
Ctrian, no one has ever stated that disinformation is/wa the be all and end all. In spite of the fact that many of the German High command "looked forward" to the invasion so that the British/American threat could finally be delt with there were many other contributing factors to the success of the invasion
As Rommel had recognised, Germany's main chance of defeating the invasion lay in prompt counterattacks, particularly by her panzer forces. However, for a variety of reasons, the powerful striking force within easy reach of the invasion beaches which he had called for was not immediately available. A major problem resulted from a lack of clarity in the panzer command structure. The newly formed 47th Panzer Corps was still in process of taking over command of 21st, 116th and 2nd Panzer Divisions, whilst administrative and supply matters remained under Panzer Group West, with both responsible to Rommel's Army Group B. To complicate matters further, Field Marshal Gerd von Rundstedt, Commander in Chief West, was powerless to commit the strategic reserve without the authority of OKW, meaning in effect Hitler.
The differences between Rommel and von Rundstedt over the best deployment of the panzer reserves meant that on June 6th, only one unit, 21st Panzer Division, stationed outside Caen, was in a position to counterattack that day.
21st Panzer had gained its reputation as part of Rommel's famous Afrika Korps. However it had been virtually completely destroyed in the spring of 1943 in Tunisia. It had been reformed later that year in Brittany, with a cadre of veterans drawn from the Eastern Front, its ranks filled out with new recruits from Germany. Shortage of equipment had been a major problem, with much use being made of obsolete material captured from the French in 1940. By the beginning of June 1944, the situation was improving, and 21st Panzer had received in the region of 90 Panzer Mark IVs, which with a number of variants, made up over 70% of its armoured strength. However the position of other units in the Division was less satisfactory. Assault Gun Battalion 200, for example, was equipped with modified French tracked chassis carrying 75mm anti-tank guns and 105 mm field howitzers. The motorised infantry battalions were also far from satisfactory; though some troops had armored half-tracks, others had to make do with lorries.
There is also evidence of some lack of unity among the Division's officers. Its commander, Generalleutnant Edgar Feuchtinger was not regarded with great respect. He was by training an artillery officer, not a tank man, and was thought by some to have too great a fondness for the bright lights of Paris. He would later be accused, by officers of 12th SS Panzer Division, of displaying indecision.
The Division began the day in dispersed positions around Caen, intended to operate against airborne or commando landings. Feuchtinger was under strict orders not to commit any forces against a major sea borne invasion without orders from Army Group B.
It may have been around 1 am on June 6th that Feuchtinger first received word of British paratroop landings east of the Orne. His two motorised infantry battalions were committed to support units of 716th Division in dealing with these, whilst his reconnaissance battalion was tasked with searching for further paratroop landings south of Caen. At 4-30 am, Army Group B released the entire Division for operations against the British paratroops east of the Orne, a decision which drew a considerable part of its strength further away from the coast. By 9 am, the bulk of 21st Panzer's armor was moving steadily north-eastwards away from Caen.
Then at 10-30 am, General Marcks, commanding 84th Corps, changed Feuchtinger's orders. He was to direct his main effort against the British and Canadian sea borne landings.
This belated change of objective resulted in what was to prove to be fatal confusion. Many of 21st Panzer's men were inextricably committed against the paratroops, and in an order issued at 1pm, Feuchtinger attempted to make the best of a bad situation. His armored units were to divide their efforts, three of his panzer battalions were to move against the sea borne landings, whilst the fourth, with Panzergrenadier regiment 125, and attached elements, was to continue operations against the paratroops. Three "kampe gruppes" (battlegroups) , named after their commanders, were improvised, two of them to take charge of operations against the sea borne invaders. Panzerkampegruppe "Oppeln " consisted of two panzer battalions, one panzergrenadier, one engineer and one armored artillery battalion; Panzerkampgruppe "Rauch" was formed from two panzergrenadier battalions, supported by armored engineers and artillery.
The result of this probably inevitable compromise was that only two-thirds of 21st Panzer Division was available for the vital counter attack towards the coast. Chances of success were further reduced by the time lost in re-grouping the Division. It took precious hours to bring men and vehicles over the limited number of crossings of the River Orne, whilst the streets of Caen were blocked with rubble as a result of continuous Allied air and naval bombardment, as well as by crowds of fleeing civilian refugees. As the first tanks eventually emerged from the western suburbs of the town, they were themselves subjected to air attack by rocket-firing Typhoons, and six were knocked out.
It was not until about 4pm that Oppeln's group began deploying near the village of Lebussey, north of Caen. At the same time, General Marcks, commanding 84th Corps took personal charge of the deployment of Group Rauch, which would face the dominating high ground of Periers Rise, still thought to be German-held. Underlining how vital the attack was, Marcks told Oberst von Oppeln-Bronikowski: "If you don't succeed in throwing the British into the sea, we will have lost the war."At about 4-20 pm, the German assault began. By now, as we have seen, unbeknown to 21st Panzer, Perriers Rise had been occupied by troops of the British Shropshire Light Infantry, equipped with 6 pounder anti-tank guns, and supported by 17 pounder SP guns of the 20th Anti-Tank Regiment. With some trepidation, the British saw a formation of some 40 Panzer IV's rapidly approaching their position. They held their fire until the German tanks began to climb the slope of the Rise, and then opened a devastating fire from their concealed positions. In quick succession, six of the 25 Mark IV's attacking on the right were knocked out. The German advance ground to a halt as surviving tanks sought shelter in patches of woodland. Further to the west, around the village of Mathieu, the 1st Panzer Regiment suffered a similar fate, with around nine tanks knocked out. As a German account admitted: " The fire of the English, from their outstandingly well-sited defence positions, was murderous… within a brief space of time the armoured regiment of 21st Panzer Division had lost a total of 16 tanks, a decisive defeat, from which, especially in morale, it never recovered."
Further to the left, however, PanzerKampfegruppe "Rauch" had found the gap between the British and Canadian forces, and drove unchecked right through to the coast. Here they linked up with the 111th Battalion of Infantry Regiment 736, which was still holding coastal positions to the west of the village of Lion sur Mer. It was a seemingly dramatic breakthrough, which would however require substantial reinforcement if it were to exploit its initial success.
The psychological effects on British troops of the counter-attack were greater than its material results. It did, however, effectively halt for the day the already faltering Allied advance towards Caen, and caused Montgomery to abandon his planned direct assault on the city in favour of a much more time-consuming enveloping movement.
For the Germans, the day ended in frustration. There were no reserves available to exploit the breakthrough at Lion. At about 9 pm, as dusk fell, the men of Group "Rauch" heard the roar of approaching aero engines, as wave after wave of transport aircraft, some towing gliders, came into view, carrying the remainder of the British 6th Airborne Division. These were on their way to reinforce the earlier landings east of the Orne, but the German troops at Lion believed that they were about to be cut off. Apart from a few men of Panzergrenadier Regiment 192, who reinforced the defenders of the isolated Douvres strongpoint, both battlegroups of 21st Panzer were ordered to pull back to positions north of Caen.
German reaction to the Allied landings had been fatally slow. The other nearest mobile reserves, 12th SS Panzer and Panzer Lehr Divisions, were not released by OKW to 7th Army until 7 pm, too late for either, harassed as they were by air attacks, to intervene that day. Germany's last chance to split the British and Canadian landings had been lost.
 
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But, the reserve forces were not thrown into the mix right away because the Germans completely, 100%, totally believed the landings at Normandy were merely a diversion to take attention, men, materials away from the "real" attack at Pas de Calais. When higher ups in the German chain of command were asked to send in reinforcements, they request was denied because the Germans "knew" Normandy was a diversion, due to disinformation, false reports, false army traffic, mis-intelligence. Many reserves units did not get called into action until the following day.

Like i said before the mobile forces that could be quickly moved were moved.The rest were infantry divisions with no mobility.Thats the main problem not disinformation,hitler sleeping etc...
 
Mike as i said before the forces available to the Germans were not enough to defeat an Allied landing provided it was well supported by naval vessels and airpower.It doesnt matter if Rommel's or Rundstedt's plan was followed.Look at what happened at Gela and Salerno.
 
Ctrain, I semi-agree with you and your points are well taken. However the point still remains that INITIALLY the German forces outnumbered the Allied. Troops and material can only be off loaded so fast. Had the Germans reacted swiftly and decisively the landings could have been vastly limited and contained. There were plenty of reserves within striking distance had they been allowed to be used but the Germans held back allowing the Allied numerical and material build up to continue. This is where the disinformation campaign made itself felt. Much as the Germans had used the French reliance on static defenses and attacked through the "Impossible" Ardennes.
What the German really lacked was IN DEPTH reserves due to the German attack into Russia. Once the landings had been established and a deep water port established it was indeed all over for the Germans. Now they had a true two front war to deal with and the industrial might of the US made itself felt.
Like an infection, the time to deal with it is in the early stages and not when it is fully established
 
Ctrain, I semi-agree with you and your points are well taken. However the point still remains that INITIALLY the German forces outnumbered the Allied. Troops and material can only be off loaded so fast. Had the Germans reacted swiftly and decisively the landings could have been vastly limited and contained. There were plenty of reserves within striking distance had they been allowed to be used but the Germans held back allowing the Allied numerical and material build up to continue. This is where the disinformation campaign made itself felt. Much as the Germans had used the French reliance on static defenses and attacked through the "Impossible" Ardennes.
What the German really lacked was IN DEPTH reserves due to the German attack into Russia. Once the landings had been established and a deep water port established it was indeed all over for the Germans. Now they had a true two front war to deal with and the industrial might of the US made itself felt.
Like an infection, the time to deal with it is in the early stages and not when it is fully established
 

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