Top fighters of WW2

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  1. Soren

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    Top fighters of WWII


    Defensive fighters


    Focke Wulf Ta-152 H-1

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    Year of introduction: 1944
    Lead Designer: Kurt Tank
    Product Company: Focke Wulf Flugzeugbau AG [​IMG]

    Engine Power: Jumo 213 E producing 2,050 PS @ 3,250 RPM

    Weight: 4,750 kg (10,471 lbs) in std. fighter configuration, 5,220 kg (11,508 lbs) in long range configuration.

    Fuel capacity: 1,049 Liter ( UK 230 / US 277 Gallons)

    Wing span: 14.44 m (47.4 ft)
    Wing Area: 23.3 m^2 (250.8 ft^2)
    Lenght: 10.82 m (35.5 ft)
    Height: 3.36 m (11.03 ft)

    Wing AR: 8.94

    CLmax figure: ~1.63
    Cd0 figure: -N/A-
    e figure: ~ .80

    Guaranteed performance
    Top speeds: 760 + km/h (475 + mph) at 12.5km, 597 km/h (373 mph) at SL.
    Climb rate: 25.5 + m/s (5,000 + ft/min) at Sonder Notleistung.

    Service Ceiling: 15.1 km (49,540 ft)

    Take off roll: 295m (967 ft)
    Take off distance to clear 20m (65 ft) high object: 495m (1,624 ft)

    Final landing approach speed: 155 km/h (96.8 mph)

    Special features

    Kommando-Gerät: Mechanical computer which regulates rpm, prop pitch, timing, blower speed all in relation to altitude.
    LGW-Siemens K-23: Auto-pilot.
    FuG 125 Hermine D/F: Navigation and blind landing aid.
    Heated armorglass windscreen for bad weather conditions.
    Air-compressed cockpit.

    Armament
    1 x 30mm Mk108 automatic cannon
    2 x 20mm MG151/20 automatic cannons


    Supermarine Spitfire Mark XIV

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    Year of introduction: 1944
    Lead Designer: Joseph Smith
    Product company: Supermarine Aviation Works [​IMG]

    Engine Power: Rolls Royce Griffon 65 producing 2,050 HP @ 2,750 RPM

    Weight: 3,850 kg (8,500 lbs)

    Fuel capacity: 510 Liter (112 UK Gallons)

    Wing span: 11.23 m (36.8 ft)
    Wing Area: 22.48 m^2 (242 ft^2)
    Lenght: 9.14 m (30 ft)
    Height: 3.04 m (10 ft)

    Wing AR: 5.56

    CLmax figure: 1.36
    Cd0 figure: 0.022
    e figure: ~ .83

    Guaranteed performance
    Top speeds: 717 km/h at 7.9km (26,000 ft), 576 km/h at SL.
    Climb rate: 24.4 m/s (4,800 ft/min) at WEP.

    Service ceiling: 13.25 km (43,500 ft)

    Take off roll: -N/A-
    Take off distance to clear 15m (50 ft) object: 539 m (1,768 ft)

    Final landing approach speed: 160 km/h (100 mph)

    Special features
    K-14: Giroscopic gunsight

    Armament
    2 x 20mm Hispano automatic cannons
    2 x 12.7mm Browning heavy machine guns


    Messerschmidt Me-262 A-1a Schwalbe

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    Year of introduction: 1944
    Lead designer: Willi Messerschmidt
    Product company: Messerschmidt AG [​IMG]

    Engine power: 2 x Jumo 004B-1 Turbo-jets each producing 8.8 kilo Newtons of thrust.

    Weight: 6,400 kg fully loaded (over 2.5 tons of fuel)

    Fuel capacity: 2,570 Liter

    Wing span: 12.65 m (41.5 ft)
    Wing Area: 21.7 m^2 (233.57 ft^2)
    Lenght: 10.6 m (34.8 ft)
    Height: 3.5 m (11.48 ft)

    Wing AR: 7.37

    CLmax figure: ~ 1.57
    Cd0 figure: -N/A- (Very low)
    e figure: ~ .80

    Guaranteed performance
    Top speeds: 870 km/h at 6.2km (20,340 ft), 838 km/h at SL.
    Climb rate: 20.2 m/s (3,980 ft/min)

    Service ceiling: 11.45 km (37,565 ft)

    Take Off roll: -N/A- (long no doubt)
    Take off distance to clear 20m (65 ft) object: -N/A-

    Final landing approach speed: 180 - 200 km/h depending on load out.

    Special features
    Askania EZ42: Gyroscopic gunsight

    Armament
    4 x 30mm Mk 108 automatic cannons

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    The list of info is as accurate as possible, but please let me know about any possible errors.

    Next up: The top Offensive fighters..
     
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    What about the Bearcat? Designed as a fast climbing interceptor, it had great potential as a fleet defense aircraft.
     
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    But it never saw active service in WWII.
     
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    nice post.i would add the Kawanishi N1K Shiden-George aswell.
     
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    For the top 3 those are them. Everything else was slightly below their level (or didn't see service in WW2 - Seafury/Bearcat).
     
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    Spitfire...nice fighter. One of the best.

    Too short range, to be useful.

    I would prefer the P51D Mustang.


    "Bad luck", that the Do335 "Ameisenbär" or "Pfeil" didn't get on duty.
     
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    It said "defensive fighters" Range is not a big issue there and the P51 doesn't fall into that category.
     
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    If the TA152 is included then I suggest that the Spit 14 should be changed for the Spit 21. Its max speed was 454mph, its better armed with 4 x 20 and had redesigned control surfaces which significantly improved control response at high speed. Also 120 were in service which is considerably more than the TA 152.

    All in all a worthy contender, often overlooked.
     
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    Ähmmmm....

    YES!

    You are right!

    "Wer lesen kann ist im Vorteil"

    OK, in this case, the Spitfire is one of the three best once.

    But perhaps in this case you should not forget this one.

    Heinkel He 162 A-2 Salamander / Volksjäger



    General characteristics
    Crew: One, pilot
    Length: 9.05 m (29 ft 8 in)
    Wingspan: 7.2 m (23 ft 7 in)
    Height: 2.6 m (8 ft 6 in)
    Wing area: 14.5 m² (156 ft²)
    (Hmmmmm....Not: 11.200 qm 120.557 sqft ????
    Empty weight: 1,660 kg (3,660 lb) (Or 2050 kg?)
    Max takeoff weight: 2,800 kg (6,180 lb)
    Powerplant: 1× BMW 003E-1 or E-2 turbojet, 7.85 kN (1,760 lbf)
    Performance
    Maximum speed: 900 km/h (562 mph) -> ´
    I think: Max speed :
    838 km/h
    452 kts

    Range: 975 km (606 mi)
    Service ceiling: 12,000 m (39,400 ft)
    Rate of climb: 1,405 m/min (4,615 ft/min)
    Armament
    2× 20 mm MG 151 cannons, 120 rounds each (A2 version)

    EDIT:
    Ahhhh....

    Wing Area: 120.56 Sq. Ft.

    Maximum Speed: 30 Second Thrust Rating
    553 mph (890 kph) at sea level
    562 mph (905 kph) at 19,690 ft (6,000m)
    525 mph (845 kph) at 36,090 ft (11,000m)
    Maximum Speed: At normal maximum thrust
    491 mph (790 kph) at sea level
    521 mph (838 kph) at 19,690 ft (6,000m)
    475 mph (765 kph) at 36,090 ft (11,000m)

    www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org - Luftwaffe Resource Center - Heinkel He 162
     
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    Bad luck for who???

    :shock:
     
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    Bad luck for the germans.
    Good luck for the B17 and B24 crews.

    It was a "nice" destroyer/fighter.
    And it would be a nice interceptor.


    Do 335 B2
    ->
    3x 30 mm MK103
    2x 20 mm MK151/20

    The B version had better engines!


    Specifications (Do 335 A-0)

    3-View drawing of Do 335A-0General characteristics
    Crew: one, pilot
    Length: 13.85 m (45 ft 5 in)
    Wingspan: 13.8 m (45 ft 1 in)
    Height: 4.55 m (15 ft)
    Wing area: 55 m² (592 ft²)
    Empty weight: 5,210 kg (11,484 lb)
    Max takeoff weight: 8,590 kg (19,500 lb)
    Powerplant: 2× Daimler-Benz DB 603A 12-cylinder inverted engines, 1,750 PS (1,726 hp, 1,287 kW) each
    Performance
    Maximum speed: 765 km/h (474 mph)
    Combat radius: 1,160 km (721 mi (half load))
    Service ceiling: 11,400 m (37,400 ft)
    Armament
    1 × 30 mm MK 103 cannon
    2 × 20 mm MG 151 cannons
    Up to 1000 kg (2,200 lb) bombload

    >>>>>>>>>>>
    Edit: I forgot the ejection seat!

    DO 335 B2:
    You need 5x 3 cm hits or 20x 20 mm hits to shoot down a B17 or a B24.
    This destroyer is 60 km faster than a P51 D.



    Dornier Do 335 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/do335.html
     
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    The Do 335B was also to get the new MK112 5.5 cannon it fired 300 rounds min. gun weight 605ponds for improved model Muzzle velocity 1'950 feet/second.
     
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    Yes; put a couple of Mk 103 gun pods under the wings and you have a devastating bomberzerstorer.

    And the two-seater would've been an awesome nachtzerstorer, undoubtedly better than the P-61.

    Does anyboy know if the Pfeil was slated to get the superlative Mauser MG 213 20mm cannon, which was still under development at War's end?
     
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    The extra 2x MK103 of the B2 version were integrated into the wings.
    3x MK103 and 2x MK151/20 are more than enough.
    Extra MK103 in pods under the wing would only slow down the Pfeil.

    As the A4M rocket has the same flight ballistics as the MK103, I would equip the DO 335 B2 with these one.

    And now the question:
    100 He 162 "Salamander" and 50 DO 335 B2 equiped with A4M rockets attack 100 B17 protected by 100 P51D over Germany, far away from there homebases in Great Britain.
    How many P51D would come back?
    5? 10? perhaps 15?
    And how many B17?
    2 or 3 or just noone?


    >>>>>>>>>>
    The two seat night fighter versions have had a loss of 10% of there capacity.



    Good question...
    I just read, that Mauser developed out of this the BK27, which is in use in the Eurofighter and Raptor.

    -> Not the Raptor...
    The F35 Lightning II.
     
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