Twin seat conversions

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  1. Geedee

    Geedee Well-Known Member

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    While watching a 'Flying Through Time' episode all about the P-38, they briefly showed a twin seat conversion I had never seen before, and I got to wondering about other conversions, either at the factory or in the field, of 'singles' and thought it might be an interesting idea to try and find pics of 'em all.

    I know there was a twin seat tandem Aircobra, a tandem '38, and of course the '51 and the 47, Hurricane (with open cockpit !) so what else do we know about, can dig up...Wildcat perchance (and I'm not going to mention the float fitted one either !)

    Might be some ideas for a future Group Build ?

    Anyway, to get the ball rolling, here's this one off '38 modification....please excuse the quality, using a telephone to capture a still from a thing called a TV !!!.

    Over to you :)
     

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    tomo pauk Creator of Interesting Threads

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    The 'America's hundred thousand' book has the pic of the P-38, s/n 40-744, that being 'a test bed with installation of a second cockpit in the port boom, apparently to test pilot reactions to an asymetric location for some other intended application'.
     
  3. Geedee

    Geedee Well-Known Member

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    Didn't say anything about that in the film !. They said is was to help the '38 pilots get used to the acceleration that the '38 could provide as the Stearman was a bit slow.....aparently !
     
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    Improvised, two-seat Spitfires, starting with a South African 4(SAAF) Sqn modification: Okay, where did they put the fuel tanks???

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    Soviet Spitfire IX UTI:

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    Aren't there a couple of twin seater Spitfires still flying in the UK today. They seem to get wheeled out when ever there is a Battle of Britain programme on TV, often involving Dan Snow going wow.
     
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    #6 norab, Mar 21, 2014
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    #7 norab, Mar 21, 2014
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    Fw 190

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    There's the well known ML407 (G-LFIX), an ex-485(NZ) Sqn veteran

    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDzjcaMZz4U

    PV202 ( G-BHGH, G-TRIX G-CCCA): Shoreham Airshow 2013 - 31st August-1st September - Supermarine Spitfire IXT PV202 - Aircraft Restoration Company

    AFAIK they're all still currently airworthy.
     
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    The VVS had two seater P-40's, observer in the back seat.
     
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    It always surprised me that the Spitfire 2 seater could fly, all conversations about extending the range of the Spitfire say that the rear fuel tank made it unstable. I would have thought a passenger would do the same.
     
  14. GrauGeist

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    Here's a couple rarities:

    A F4U trainer concept (V-354)

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    And a TP-47G "Doublebolt"

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    Hawker Hurricane, apparently converted and used by the P-47 equipped 346th FS, 350th FG as a target-tug and liaison aircraft in early 1944

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    Nifty F4U photo Dave. I've got several books on the aircraft and I don't recall it even mentioned. How do you make a P-39 uglier, make it a trainer.

    Geo
     
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    #17 GrauGeist, Mar 21, 2014
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    Vought built a single model from a F4U-1 airframe as a proposal for a trainer series. The U.S.N. showed no interest and the airframe was converted to a standard build F4U-1. Unfortunately, I don't have the aircraft's serial number reference.

    As far as ugly P-39s go, how about a P-63 tandem seater?

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    tomo pauk Creator of Interesting Threads

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    One might claim that F4U needed two seater variant more than most of the other SE fighters?
     
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    That P-39 does NOT look right!
     
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