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jimh said:PS the speed at which he does his low passes would allow for quite a bit of time to make a runway if there is an engine issue. A couple years ago V Lenoch lost an engine on top of a loop in his P-51 and landed with no issues
Why? When an engine stops, aircraft don't come to a juddering halt, and fall out of the sky, they can normally fly on, at least for some distance, while the pilot looks for somewhere soft to put it down.
A few thousand feet over the end of the runway, low airspeed, no power, this almost sounds like an ideal initial point for a teardrop dead stick landing, something all light plane pilots should practice.At the top of loop in Mustang you can be anywhere around 100 to 150mph depending on how hard you pull.
200 mph and 500 ft over the end of the runway and the engine quits. This sounds like the situation of an engine failure on take off. What is the number one rule on engine failure on take off, NEVER TRY TO TURN BACK TO THE RUNWAY! Your options are limited. You could try to turn downwind and land normally or you could try to make a tear drop and land in the opposite direction, both are a dead mans choice, you most likely will not have the energy to do either. Your option is only to go straight ahead with maybe a make a bit of a maneuver. I'll take the engine failure at the top of a loop any time. I've been there with no airspeed, but that is a different story.At the bottom you are going to be at a minimum 200 and accelerating pretty quickly. Either case leaves you with both energy or altitude to make critical decisions.
The perspective MUST be off in that picture, because he looks REALLY close to that red twin. Also that golf cart.
I did what you suggested Greg.
Wowzers.
Good evening, the picture is legit. His wing was actually that low. I was standing next to the building when I took that picture. I will post a couple of the other pics here.
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There is a video of a P-38 crash in the UK where the pilot is doing a fast low pass, starts a roll, and hits the ground.
Most of the above accidents in the videos were caused by people who didn't practice the show in front of the air boss, did rolling or looping maneuvers at reduced power to "conserve" the engine, rolled from a level pass without a pull-up, and were flat out of practice at aerobatics. In Steve Schneider's case, I was not there, but have many friend who were. They said he flew the loop at greatly reduced power. Steve's Sabre had solid leading edges (no slats) and had no extra lift capacity left when he tried to pull up at the last second. In fact, at almost looks like it stalled at the last second as Steve pulled harder.
Warbird aerobatics CAN be safe and still look very good. There is no need to push the envelope as there might be in something like the Paris airshow when millions of dollars of sales hang on the display. The warbirds doing airshows are already owned and there is not a large sales population of them hanging in the balance.
Might was well do it safe and practice enough to do it right before the public sees the airshow in the first place. Good airshows MAKE it happen that way (at least the air bosses do) or you don't get to fly in them.