lesofprimus
Brigadier General
Ur a Petty Officer 1st Class, right?
Were you ever in the Armed Forces
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Nonskimmer
Captain
No, a Master Seaman. Our enlisted rank structure is entirely different, but the way it was explained to me is that it works out to approximately the same as an E-6 in the US Navy, so yeah I guess I'd be like the PO1 there. It doesn't look like I'll ever see my P2's. I can live with it. Who knows, maybe next year. (Yeah, right.)
Ours goes:
Recruit
Ordinary Seaman
Able Seaman
Leading Seaman
Master Seaman
Petty Officer 2nd Class
Petty Officer 1st Class
Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class
Chief Petty Officer 1st Class (the big cheese)
Ours goes:
Recruit
Ordinary Seaman
Able Seaman
Leading Seaman
Master Seaman
Petty Officer 2nd Class
Petty Officer 1st Class
Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class
Chief Petty Officer 1st Class (the big cheese)
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
lesofprimus said:
Yup - I was a 2nd class. To confuse things (as I know Les knows this, for the benifit of NS) the USN also goes by your rating. I was an Aviation Machinists Mate, and "AD." As a second class I would be an AD2, or a PO2 or a Petty officer second class or an E-5.
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
Non-commissioned members
Chief Petty Officer, 1st class (premier maître de 1re classe)Coat of Arms of Canada
Chief Petty Officer, 2nd class (premier maître de 2e classe) Crown within laurel wreath
Petty Officer, 1st class (maître de 1re classe) Crown
Petty officer, 2nd class (maître de 2e classe) Maple leaf above three chevrons, point down
Master seaman (matelot-chef) Maple leaf above two chevrons, point down
Leading seaman (matelot de 1re classe) Two chevrons, point down
Able seaman (matelot de 2e classe) One chevron, point down
Ordinary seaman (matelot de 3e classe) No insignia
Chief Petty Officer, 1st class (premier maître de 1re classe)Coat of Arms of Canada
Chief Petty Officer, 2nd class (premier maître de 2e classe) Crown within laurel wreath
Petty Officer, 1st class (maître de 1re classe) Crown
Petty officer, 2nd class (maître de 2e classe) Maple leaf above three chevrons, point down
Master seaman (matelot-chef) Maple leaf above two chevrons, point down
Leading seaman (matelot de 1re classe) Two chevrons, point down
Able seaman (matelot de 2e classe) One chevron, point down
Ordinary seaman (matelot de 3e classe) No insignia
Nonskimmer
Captain
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
Nonskimmer
Captain
I'm better looking.
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
God I hope so....
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
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- #250
Actually I am still a E-4. Have been one for the last 3 years. Our promotion system in the Army is very dumb. It is based of of points not job performance. I am very good at my job and I do my job well and fly a lot so I dont have much time to sit around and get points by taking stupid online promotion point classes such as infantry squad tactics and such not. People that dont do there jobs sit around and do the classes and get promoted.
I am hoping to make points this month and and be pinned and E-5 on Sept 1.
I am hoping to make points this month and and be pinned and E-5 on Sept 1.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Good Luck Dude! 
Nonskimmer
Captain
Yeah, best of luck man.
Our promotion system in the Canuckian Navy is a bit f*cked too. I spent ten years as a leading seaman, and not because I don't know my job, brother. No way. Nothing but outstanding write-ups from my bosses, and the gear always worked on time. An awful lot of guys get stuck in a certain rank in our navy. The Army isn't nearly as bad. I dunno. I stopped trying to figure it out years ago. At this point in my career it hardly makes much difference anyway. The pay is good, and I have a decent enough level of responsibility as a master seaman.
Our promotion system in the Canuckian Navy is a bit f*cked too. I spent ten years as a leading seaman, and not because I don't know my job, brother. No way. Nothing but outstanding write-ups from my bosses, and the gear always worked on time. An awful lot of guys get stuck in a certain rank in our navy. The Army isn't nearly as bad. I dunno. I stopped trying to figure it out years ago. At this point in my career it hardly makes much difference anyway. The pay is good, and I have a decent enough level of responsibility as a master seaman.
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- #253
I just think that it should be based of your job skills. A friend of mine was in the army for 6 years and was one of the best Crew Chiefs and Blackhawk mechanics that I have ever seen. He tought so much good stuff to me and the other new guys and he got out of the army as an E-4. They tried to get him to stay in and he told them, why should I. I cant get promoted, go fuck your self.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
In the Navy you take a rate exam and that score with awards and other cudos are the basis for promotion, although the commander could do a command promote.
My command tried to get me to stay in when my hitch was up. I told them I wanted a CP to first class, they told me if I do good on the rate exam it will be considered - I told them to kiss my ass! If I was that valuable, they will CP.
My command tried to get me to stay in when my hitch was up. I told them I wanted a CP to first class, they told me if I do good on the rate exam it will be considered - I told them to kiss my ass! If I was that valuable, they will CP.
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- #255
Good for you, I would have done the same. I am getting out. The Army is getting to political for me. I can not do it anymore.
Parmigiano
Senior Airman
I served as under-lieutnant of the Mountain Artillery (Alpini, the ones with the eagle pen on the hat)
I quit at the end of the mandatory service and later got the second star, so I was a lieutnant in the end.
Actually I still am, cause as an officer you don't lose your rank; moreover I am not officially 'off the hook' but on 'unlimited license'
Was a good time, we went almost as high as airplanes (last camp we set the battery at 2500m on the Alps) but with howitzers and mules!
Unfortunately it was 24 years ago, I am really getting an old man...
From time to time I am still in contact with my ex-comrades, one of them decided to sign in the Army and is now a Colonel in the NATO mission in Baghdad.
A brilliant guy recently set up a site for 'my' Group, so I attach the link for those interested, but it's only in Italian
http://www.gruppovicenza.it/index.html
I quit at the end of the mandatory service and later got the second star, so I was a lieutnant in the end.
Actually I still am, cause as an officer you don't lose your rank; moreover I am not officially 'off the hook' but on 'unlimited license'
Was a good time, we went almost as high as airplanes (last camp we set the battery at 2500m on the Alps) but with howitzers and mules!
Unfortunately it was 24 years ago, I am really getting an old man...
From time to time I am still in contact with my ex-comrades, one of them decided to sign in the Army and is now a Colonel in the NATO mission in Baghdad.
A brilliant guy recently set up a site for 'my' Group, so I attach the link for those interested, but it's only in Italian
http://www.gruppovicenza.it/index.html
P38 Pilot
Tech Sergeant
Sorry about your friend Alder.
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- #258
It is a shame. The army is losing people because of the way it has turned into.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
Yep - I hear you - after a while it seems you reach a "bog" when in the military, and it doesn't matter what branch you're in!
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- #260
I have reached that bog. I love my job but can enjoy it in the civilian world better.
