GregP
Major
OK SaprotRob, this is for you ...
What is your favorite Bf-109?
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SaparotRob
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I actually tried to find a distributor here in NY. .
SaparotRob
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You know, that just might alleviate the boredom.
don4331
Senior Airman
I buy the myth part, and I could be convinced of the too large (really too heavy) part for a 109, but I don't buy the too long. I could also buy there would be feed issues as the 151 round is almost 50% larger diameter than the 131 and there isn't any space under cowl to spread guns apart.
The "receiver" of the MG151 is only ~7cm longer than that of the MG131 (68 vs 61cm) and I think there is still that much space between MG131 breech and the instrument panel of the 109. It might be cosy and/or require relocation of instruments in top corners of panel, but no worse than the Zero.
The additional 0.75m of barrel would just mean muzzles are closer to the prop.
By receiver, I am referring to the amount of gun behind the barrel.
Aside: Would DB605L need 2 x 3 blade props, or just 2 x 2?? Spitfire was going from 5 to 6 blades with contra rotating = 20% increase, 2x2 would be 33% increase.
GrauGeist
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So the two MG131s (at 37 pounds each) are replaced by two 96 pound 15mm cannon, in addition to having the 300+ pound MK108 30mm.
But since this is fantasy, CoG is not an issue, perhaps?
But since this is fantasy, CoG is not an issue, perhaps?
No, CG wouldn't be a problem as long as you took out the IFF, nose armor and other assorted bits…
Okay, I will put myself into timeout.
don4331
Senior Airman
I was thinking there would be CoG issues with just the 2 stage supercharger of the DB605L, without accounting for 4 blade prop, even after removing the MG131s.
MK108 "only" weighs about 60kg; the MK103 is the beast that weighs about 140kg. The receiver for the MK103 is over 30cm further back than MG151; the joy stick had be curved to allow full travel with the MG151. To fit the MK103, you're going P-38 and moving the joystick to the side of the cockpit. And your b@lls are going to be resting against the receiver. I suspect not many pilots felt comfortable in mockup of the MK103 in 109.
MK108 "only" weighs about 60kg; the MK103 is the beast that weighs about 140kg. The receiver for the MK103 is over 30cm further back than MG151; the joy stick had be curved to allow full travel with the MG151. To fit the MK103, you're going P-38 and moving the joystick to the side of the cockpit. And your b@lls are going to be resting against the receiver. I suspect not many pilots felt comfortable in mockup of the MK103 in 109.
GrauGeist
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I damn-near added something along those lines, but I'm trying hard to avoid mentioning anything to do with a certain Bell product...
fastmongrel
1st Sergeant
I could buy some bottles and drink them and tell you how nice it was. Heck if it would help I could do a live webcast of me getting drunk
shame on you Sir, shame on you !
SaparotRob
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Thanks, man. Not everyone would do that for me.I could buy some bottles and drink them and tell you how nice it was. Heck if it would help I could do a live webcast of me getting drunk
GrauGeist
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SaparotRob
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Awesome! Luftwaffe Lager and the Bottle of Britain. Could there be an alcoholic Kamikaze as well?
GrauGeist
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There is.
To make a Kamikaze:
2oz. Vodka
3/4oz. Orange liquor
3/4oz. fresh Lime juice
Combine into a shaker filled with ice, shake until cold.
Using a strainer, pour into two shot glasses.
Pro tip: over indulgence will find you battling gravity, which many ultimately lose.
Hence the name...
SaparotRob
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I sort of remember trying to brush the floor off my face once.
I was wondering if there are other bottled alcoholic aircraft brew.
I was wondering if there are other bottled alcoholic aircraft brew.
Snautzer01
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Should call it Airacobra. That one is always batteling gravity and needs only a little enhancement to hit the deck flat on his face.
GrauGeist
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Wensleydale: Stuka (ale)
Wingman Brewers: P-51 (porter)
Banks Park Brewery: Lancaster (ale)
There's several others that I can't remember at the moment.
If I have time this afternoon, I'll Google and see if I can find them.
SaparotRob
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Cool stuff! The things one learns here.
Snautzer01
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Bet there isnt one called Fokker.
GrauGeist
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You'd lose the bet.
A Brazilian brewery, "Cervejaria Bier Flug", has a whole line of aircraft themed beers.
One of which, is a red ale named "Fokker Dr1"
