What would have been the ultimate German jet fighter design to go into service? (2 Viewers)

[topspeed]

What kind of price we're taliking about? Compared to what?

That Junkers jet in aforementioned comment of mine.

Ta-183 had entered wind tunnel...but that simple Junkers jet data is not available.

 

[SaparotRob]

Post-War, were there any RAF pilots that flew both the Meteor and 262 and left written comparisons?

Capt. Brown.

 

[bada]

Post-War, were there any RAF pilots that flew both the Meteor and 262 and left written comparisons?

You can read extract from Brown's book in the following post filed with ramblings:

B

Post in thread 'Dogfight: Me 262 vs. Meteor'

Aug 23, 2026

I am not exactly sure what you are rambling about.
I referred to a broader argument about the Me 262's performance and the speed record of a Meteor on November 7, 1945, of over 600 mph in level flight.

You obviously switched on the TikTok brain, read a couple of broken phrases here and there, and then lost it.
Please educate me on what happened to the great Jumo engine after WWII, who operated it, and then provide a list of companies, aircraft, and nations that chose Whittle's engine in the following decade or so.
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Well, the speed record is a one-off. it's the same as saying...

• bada

Otherwise, the Ta-183 is looking good but i'd rather propose the following airplane as the ultimate german jet: Me-1112

Einführung / Introduction | MeP1112

 

[Howard Gibson]

Post-War, were there any RAF pilots that flew both the Meteor and 262 and left written comparisons?

Eric Brown definitely flew Me262s. He had a very high opinion of it. He also flew Gloster Meteors, de Havilland Vampires, and a Bell P59. Meteors in particular, got very much faster after the war.

 

[topspeed]

Eric Brown definitely flew Me262s. He had a very high opinion of it. He also flew Gloster Meteors, de Havilland Vampires, and a Bell P59. Meteors in particular, got very much faster after the war.

Weren't the germans suffering of skilled pilots...I recall some Voksjäger pilots had just passed glider flights in some cases....just kids.

 

[Capt. Vick]

Focke-Wulf Ta 183

it's basically a Vampire

 

[topspeed]

Focke-Wulf Ta 183

it's basically a Vampire

You refer to Flitser ?

 

[Howard Gibson]

Weren't the germans suffering of skilled pilots...I recall some Voksjäger pilots had just passed glider flights in some cases....just kids.

The Volksjaeger concept was a Nazi fantasy. Brown was impressed with the He162, but he found the landings and takeoffs to be tricky.

We are discussing the aircraft here, not the poor schmuks who had to fly them.

 

[topspeed]

The Volksjaeger concept was a Nazi fantasy. Brown was impressed with the He162, but he found the landings and takeoffs to be tricky.

We are discussing the aircraft here, not the poor schmuks who had to fly them.

No you don't clearly see the picture here.

Why design a plane that 99% cannot fly ?

That simple Junkers jet would have been an optimal solution. Clearly slow...but faster than enemy planes...easy to take off and land.

It was a plane where a pilot could get out without getting sucked into the engine. Volksjäger was only built because Heinkel built it before the competotion was even held and it was ready.

 

[tomo pauk]

No you don't clearly see the picture here.

Why design a plane that 99% cannot fly ?

It cannot?

 

[Howard Gibson]

No you don't clearly see the picture here.

Why design a plane that 99% cannot fly ?

That simple Junkers jet would have been an optimal solution. Clearly slow...but faster than enemy planes...easy to take off and land.

It was a plane where a pilot could get out without getting sucked into the engine. Volksjäger was only built because Heinkel built it before the competotion was even held and it was ready.

99% is a bit of an exaggeration. The He162 was equipped with an ejector seat.

 

[topspeed]

99% is a bit of an exaggeration. The He162 was equipped with an ejector seat.

Ok...you got me there...I had no idea it had an E-seat:

Yes, the Heinkel He 162 Volksjäger was designed and equipped with an explosive-cartridge-fired ejection seat as standard equipment. [1, 2]

• Why it was needed: The single BMW turbojet engine was mounted directly on top of the fuselage behind the cockpit, making a standard bailout extremely dangerous because the pilot would likely strike the engine or tail. [1, 2, 3]
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• • How it worked: The seat used a gunpowder cartridge (Schleudersitz Heinkel-Kartusche) to forcefully propel the pilot upward and clear of the airframe and engine. [1, 2, 3]
  • Significance: It was one of the earliest operational ejection seats in military aviation history and the first to be fitted as standard in a production single-engine jet fighter. [1, 2, 3]

He-162 had no rear view for the pilot.

 

[MIflyer]

Without a doubt, this one. Oh, wait, or did you mean in WW2?

 

[topspeed]

Without a doubt, this one. Oh, wait, or did you mean in WW2?

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Yes WW2....here is athe unknown Junkers jet...seems to be a forerunner for LA-15.

 

[GrauGeist]

No you don't clearly see the picture here.

Why design a plane that 99% cannot fly ?

That simple Junkers jet would have been an optimal solution. Clearly slow...but faster than enemy planes...easy to take off and land.

It was a plane where a pilot could get out without getting sucked into the engine. Volksjäger was only built because Heinkel built it before the competotion was even held and it was ready.

No, the He162 was not built before the "competition" (Emergency Fighter Program) was issued.

It was selected from 34 submissions due to it's construction and use of already available parts and non-strategic materials.

As far as the ejection seat is concerned, Heinkel developed their system, first used on the He280 jet and then later on the He219. Dornier also used the system on the Do335.