Catch22
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Don't put it in the same thread please, make a new one for each plane (just one per aircraft, so each version goes in there.). Dan will pin them for us.
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Got it. I thought it should be a new thread, just makes sense. Do I need to PM Dan (AKA lesofprimus) to let him know about the new thread? By the way, yours looks good. You've set a good example to follow. I'll see how well I can do.
Venganza
Catch22
Major
Thanks!
Dan just did it for mine, I didn't have to ask.
Dan just did it for mine, I didn't have to ask.
Lucky13
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A what and a what now Wojtek???Three "doska" sturmoviks and one " strielka".Nice collection Venganza.Very nice.
Lucky13
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"Doska" and "strielka" buddy.....
Oh .... 
I was sure you knew. "Doska" in Russian means "board" and "strielka" means "arrow". These both names were used for calling two kinds of the Il-2 Sturmovik wings. If you look much carefully at these models you can see the difference.Of course these kinds of the Il-2 wing could be of wooden or metalic structures
I was sure you knew. "Doska" in Russian means "board" and "strielka" means "arrow". These both names were used for calling two kinds of the Il-2 Sturmovik wings. If you look much carefully at these models you can see the difference.Of course these kinds of the Il-2 wing could be of wooden or metalic structuresAttachments
Airframes
Benevolens Magister
It is interesting! I didn't even know they had diffrent wings!
Yes, two different planforms, wooden and metal covered versions for each planform, versions with all-metal structure and wooden covering on the outer wings, and versions with metal spars, wooden ribs and stringers and wooden covering on the outer wings. The "arrow" or "so strelkoi" or Strielka, had 15% sweepback on the leading edges of the outer wing, as opposed to 5% on the doska or "straight-wing" version, to correct the c.g. problems that occurred when the rear gunner was added. I'll probably go into this more in excruciating detail in the IL-2 Modelling Guide I'm working on in the Modeling, Painting Questions, Tutorials and Guidebooks section, where Catch22 already has a thread for the Corsair and I plan to add one for the IL-2 where all will be revealed. That's interesting about the names, Wurger, and nicely illustrated. Strielka I knew but I don't think I've seen the word "doska" for the straight-winger - probably because I can't read Russian. For the record, my current models are 4 doskas - 3 representing metal-wingers (the 2-seater doska represents a wooden-covered version, which I had to create by sanding down the wings - great fun), and 1 arrow, which also represents a wooden-covered version (and which I also sanded down).
Venganza
Airframes
Benevolens Magister
Quite some variations! As you say, Wojtek, now I know! Problem is, I don't have much knowledge of WW2 Russian aircraft, as it's an area that has not really aroused my interest. But, Russian jets, that's a different matter!!
Yep...excellent selection of the Sturmoviks here Venganza. These wooden covered Ils were typical for the early and mid aircraft.Although There were planes with a mixed structure as well.I remember my chat with a Il-2 pilot who flew them shortly after WW2.The wooden wonder was very difficult to fly.It seems that the kind of Il-2s was "a little" too heavy.
Terry these WW2 Russian aircraft are really very interesting.
Terry these WW2 Russian aircraft are really very interesting.
Catch22
Major
I'm the same Terry, until recently I didn't really know much of anything about them. I do like the La-5 though.
Airframes
Benevolens Magister
Leave it at least 18 hours Robert. If it looks 'liquidy', it might be over-thinned, so it'll take some drying. It might need another coat, with less thinner, but DON'T try until you are sure the first paint is TOTALLY set! Before you try another coat, try it on something else first, to see if it looks like it will dry properly. And DON'T be tempted to touch the model yet - if it isn't dry, it'll leave marks that are VERY difficult to rectify.
Airframes
Benevolens Magister
OK. With a spray can, it might be that it's been sprayed too 'heavy', or, the can might need more shaking, to mix the paint more. If it looks more or less dry, then it'll be OK to move it, CAREFULLY. But, don't try another spray until it is totally dry, otherwise it'll 'orange peel' or blister.
