When does 'art' become porn?

[Freebird]

Taking a shot of a nude minor is child porn and should be threated as such.


And if you want to know the difference between art and porn, it's rather easy... A nude girl is art. A nude girl with something in her ass or p*ssy is porn.

Huh?
You are making two opposite arguments here!

Is it A.)

Taking a shot of a nude minor is child porn

Or B.)

A nude girl is art.

And what is your definition of "minor" or "child"? 16? 17? 18?

Is it the age of consent of the girl in her home country or state? The state where the picture was taken? The home state of the photographer?

If you took pictures of your 19 yr old wife nude in Tunisia should you be charged with child porn? {age of consent is 20 there}

Is it Ok to take "art pictures" of a nude 13 yr old girl in Mexico if she agrees? {age of consent is 12 in Mexico}

Should a 18 yr old be charged with child porn if he has nude pics of his 16 yr old girlfriend on vacation in California? {age of consent = 18}

What if they are both from South Carolina? {age of consent = 14}

Just playing devil's advocate here.

I'm asking where do you draw the line, I've met "mature" 16 yr old girls capable of making decisions about their own sexuality and 25 yr old mental "basket cases" who are not.

 

[Kruska]

When does 'art' become porn?

I think every time I look at "art"

Regards
Kruska

 

[Freebird]

When does 'art' become porn?

I think every time I look at "art"

Regards
Kruska

Lots of "art" on the breaking news thread!

 

[evangilder]

Talking of Miley Cyrus, I just found that article... Now the real question : Do you believe it ? I don't. If that had happened to my daughter, I would have took an apointment with her publicist and showed up wit a MEB in my back pocket.

The Associated Press: Cyrus says he was surprised by Vanity Fair photo

Sorry, but trusting your child to a publicist?!? What a friggin' moron. He, of all people ought to know that the one who will know best is one the PARENTS. His quote says it all...
"So I was surprised when I saw it, you know, but ... stuff happens"

Stuff happens?!?! He should be furious.

 

[Maestro]

Huh?
You are making two opposite arguments here!

I think you only forgot to read a tiny word in my post...

Taking a shot of a nude minor is child porn and should be threated as such.

Now, if your an adult (18 or over) the second sentence you quoted apply. You can pose nude or you can do porn.

 

[Maestro]

Stuff happens?!?! He should be furious.

Right on. You know, the fact that somebody is famous doesn't automatically makes him/her smarter. Just look at Jane Fonda !

 

[Freebird]

I think you only forgot to read a tiny word in my post...

Now, if your an adult (18 or over) the second sentence you quoted apply. You can pose nude or you can do porn.

Ok. Sorry, I think perhaps in your post you should have put "woman" {ie over 18} as I understood "girl" to be under 18.

A nude girl is art.

Sorry, but trusting your child to a publicist?!? What a friggin' moron. He, of all people ought to know that the one who will know best is one the PARENTS. His quote says it all...
"So I was surprised when I saw it, you know, but ... stuff happens"

Stuff happens?!?! He should be furious.

Eric, from what I understand he was at the photo shoot and had no objections to it at the time, he even saw the proofs of that shot. The only one to blame for failing in his duty is him. When the photographer at the shoot says "Ok, now I need your 15 yr old daughter to take her clothes off" that would be the time for a responsible parent to step in, not crying about it later when the scandal breaks!

 

[Maestro]

Ok. Sorry, I think perhaps in your post you should have put "woman" {ie over 18} as I understood "girl" to be under 18.

Hmmm... I think you're right. My bad.

 

[Freebird]

But getting back to the original post, I think there should be a distinction between the pervert that violates a small child to make porn, and the foolish 15-16 yr old girl who willingly sends nude pictures of herself to her boyfriend. I think she has to take some responsibility in this.

Of course the guy was a creep to post them on the internet, but in the bigger picture I think the message to other young girs shouldn't be "see the bad man is in jail now", but the message too young girls should be:

"if you send nude pics to anyone {even your loving boyfriend} they can end up on the net, with only yourself to blame"

Maybe they would think twice about sending them...

 

[Maestro]

Isn't it already the case ? I mean, what do you propose ? We can't send her to jail.

 

[Freebird]

Isn't it already the case ? I mean, what do you propose ? We can't send her to jail.

I think what I am saying is that they are sending the wrong message to young girls by excessive prosecution {IMO} I don't think the guy deserves major jail time for child porn for pics that she sent him. He should get a misdemeanor something pay a fine. The "child porn" will get thrown out anyways, as nudity is legal {even for a 15 yr old} unless there is some sexual content

By blowing this up into a big deal, it tells girls that they are the "victim", when really the stupid t**ts are responsible for their own embarassment.

 

[Maestro]

Hah ! Louisiana made a good move...

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal Signs Sex Offender Chemical Castration Bill - DigitalJournal.com: The Power of Citizen Journalism

 

[Maestro]

Sorry for bumping this old thread, but guess what showed up in my browser when I was loging-on to Hotmail...

Safe Sex with Hannah Montana? : Dramarama : CelebEdge : Sympatico / MSN

So now they want to make her sell condoms ? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for teaching the "mysteries of sexuality and safe sex" to teenagers, but I think the message just won't pass.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't she supposed to still be a virgin and "keeping it for marriage" ? I guess it's all the opposite of selling condoms ! I think they would have better luck with a well known slut like Jenna Jameson.

 

[RabidAlien]

....or Britney Spears. Didn't I hear somewhere that her mom made the decision to "market" her daughter as a sex-icon, instead of a "dang, she's a good singer"? The second method works slower, yes, and runs the risk of failure if nobody likes the music. The first is faster, and only sacrifices your daughter's self-esteem and self-respect and sanity.

 

[Maestro]

Yep... But it's almost the same case that Cyrus... Spears was "claiming" to be keeping it for marriage... Even if we all suspect she...

...Nevermind.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Yep... But it's almost the same case that Cyrus... Spears was "claiming" to be keeping it for marriage... Even if we all suspect she sucked some dicks to get a record contract.

Did I just think that out loud ? Woohoops...

Hey chill out! You do not have to be so graphic in your posting! Don't write something like that again! Do you understand??

 

[Aussie1001]

yeah man that was a bit over the top.

 

[Maestro]

yeah man that was a bit over the top.

Okay, okay... I was saying it more like a joke, but oh, well. Sorry if I offended anyone.

 

[Lucky13]

I guess that some "under the table dealings" must have been done...cr*p music!