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I beg you pardon Glider, no US boat possessed the same quality equipment as the German subs. The German subs were equipped with accoustic homing torpedoes, anti radar coatings, schnorkel, Zeiss optics, advanced sonar etc etc..
The Type VII Type IX were techincally second to none other than the Type XXI sub.
Accoustic homing torpedo's - certainly but late in the war the USA had these as well
anti radar coatings - that didn't work
schnorkel - certainly but not on all
Zeiss optics - certainly but outranged and outclassed by the US radar
Advanced sonar - but matched by US Sonar
What the Germans lacked were
Air Search radar
Surface search radar
Sonar that was designed to penetrate minefields
Torpedo tubes - 6 in the Type IX, 5 in the Type VII, 10 in the US Fleet class
Torpedo's - 14 in the type VII, 22 in the Type IX, 24 in the Fleet Class
Secure line of sight communications by night.
Accoustic homing torpedo's - certainly but late in the war the USA had these as well
The anti radar coatings did work however Glideranti radar coatings - that didn't work
schnorkel - certainly but not on all
Zeiss optics - certainly but outranged and outclassed by the US radar
Advanced sonar - but matched by US Sonar
What the Germans lacked were
Air Search radar
Surface search radar
Sonar that was designed to penetrate minefields
Torpedo tubes - 6 in the Type IX, 5 in the Type VII, 10 in the US Fleet class
Torpedo's - 14 in the type VII, 22 in the Type IX, 24 in the Fleet Class
Secure line of sight communications by night.
The US developed an electric anti-escort torpedo. Torpedo Mk 27 Mod 0, or "Cutie," was the adaptation of Mine Mk 24 for submarine use, and saw service starting late 1944/early 1945 in the Pacific theaterWhat effective accoustic torpedoes did the US subs have Glider, I'm curious!
I don't believe that they did. The previous posting supports that position plus the losses the U Boats had to suffer to air attackThe anti radar coatings did work however Glider
I admit that I don't. In his book Iron Coffins Herbert Werner describes how he was desperately searching for the parts to complete the Schnorkel equipment for the submarine he has been assigned to command.Re number of U Boats that didn't have a Schnorkel Do you have any idea of how many ?
Easy, they couldn't but then neither could anyone else.Explain to me how the US used radar while submerged.
Of very little if any use at all. Gunnery from a small rolling pitching U Boat was difficult at point blank range. The fact that you know the range is of little assistance if you are trying to hit a ship at 8km the maximum effective range is of little helpFor surface attacks the German U-boat had the Ballspiel gunnery radar.
FuMo 61 was in widespread use at the end of the war, but questions remain about its effectiveness. With a range of 20KM against aircraft it would in theory have made the U Boat almost imune against aircraft attack, but as we all know this wasn't the case. Many U Boats were sunk in surprise attacks using the Leigh Light which is a very short range weapon.FuMO 61 65.
Naxos was effective against the 10cm ASW radar, but at the same time as the Naxos was intorduced into service, the Allies introduced the 3cm radar against the which the Naxos was useless. So I am afraid it was soon obsolete, there were also problems with the antenna.Plus Naxos radar warning.
I have found the comment on U Boat net but can find no mention of this radar as being in production or service on any other web page or book that I have read or am in position of. I don't know if this ever entered service, have you any information that could help with this?FuMO 83 84
There is a difference in being able to detect minefields, and penetrate minefields. The Japanese relied on minfields in a number of key areas and the US were able to use their sonar to get through the minefields submerged.Re Sonars and minefields Designed to ? The Germans were using very accurate sonar equipment Glider, more than accurate enough to detect mine fields.
I must disagree. I have read a number of books on the U boat war and there were a number of times when A U boat was in a very good position within a convoy and had to break off the attack to reload the torpedo tubes.Re number of torpedo tubes per boat Completely irrelevant.
Nope, the object was to find the best. If you want to include size then the British U/V class would be in with a shout but I wouldn't by any means call them the best.Ever considered comparing the size of the boats ???
Didn't work to well for the boats that tried to penetrate the waters in the Bristol Channel. Three U-boats were recently found that were sunk by mines.Re Sonars and minefields Designed to ? The Germans were using very accurate sonar equipment Glider, more than accurate enough to detect mine fields.
Soren, you claim to have no bias so what were the positive/good points of the American boats and the negative/bad points of the German boats.
Didn't work to well for the boats that tried to penetrate the waters in the Bristol Channel. Three U-boats were recently found that were sunk by mines.