Yet another t-shirt thread

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  1. Clave

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    So many people have got too much time on their hands - like Lockheed, Mcdonnell-Douglas and the Royal Australian Air Force... so in light of their nit-picking, I am pondering another direction for my aircraft based t-shirts...

    I'm ditching all the roundels and flags, and a may ditch text completely...

    I'm filling out the area by using plan views - and drastically reducing the numbers overall.

    I still have no idea what people like/want/will buy here so I'm going to be very cautious before committing to a big load of work drawing plan views, so opinions and feedback are most welcome. Love or hate the idea - text or no text, any kind of thought goes...
     

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    Not sure what you mean Clave. I've bought 3 of your great shirts and have no complaints! Wearing one tommorrow to the airshow.
     
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    Wish I could afford some more. I have three so far and like the layout. I have had some of the older fellas at airshows come up and ask me about the shirts. I give the the forum and your are work web address.
     
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    I love your work, waiting for a P-51B Mustang ( Shangri-La ) to find it's way to your com screen to place an order. Maybe with the noseart name on the back.........PLEASE.
     
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    Aha, thanks for the feedback :)

    I should have been more specific:

    Lockheed-Martin have contacted the t-shirt suppliers (Printfection) to demand removal of F-16s, F-22s, F-117s, T-33s for copyright reasons. This was done - there is no appeal, and no right to use your own work in this way if Lockheed thinks it breaches their conditions...

    McDonnell-Douglas were more reasonable - they only said to stop using their name - so my Phantoms are just called 'F-4 Phantom' now not 'McDonnell-Douglas Phantom'

    The Australian Air Force have swung into action against the other people I use (CafePress) and all my RAAF t-shirts are gone...

    I was just gearing up to do a bunch of P-38s and B-17Gs but I don't know what to do now - Boeing I suspect will be just as harsh as Lockheed....

    I don't know why they bother, you would think that they might have better things to do than stopping me earning a few dollars... :-x
     
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    So no Delta Darts or Daggers, B-36s, F-111s, M1 tanks, Vultees, or Hustlers...

    I also think Martin aircraft fall into this 'catch-all' so no Marylands, Maulers, or Baltimores either...
     
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    Well THAT SUCKS!!!
     
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    Yeah it does. Your work is always top notch.
     
  9. Clave

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    I am in touch with them directly now, and I also downloaded their license document which prohibits use of images and text on 'apparel' but not 'prints'

    I have pointed out the originality of my work and suggested that if I removed 'Lockheed' and 'F-16' etc. then I should now be breaking their terms...
     

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    If they decide to agree that piece above there will be STUPENDOUS Bill!:thumbrigh: :cool:
     
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    That just doesn't make sense to me, that really blows!
     
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    freakin' scumbags
     
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    No dice - they will not accept any form of depiction of any of their aircraft it would seem... :evil:

    I have been asked if I want to apply for a license - so I might just do that, if only to see what horrendous fee they charge... :rolleyes:
     
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    freakin' money-grubbing scumbags
     
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    If I sold 100 F-16 t-shirts I would make $500 profit, hardly enough to dent the the 2.9 billion dollars profit they made in 2010...
     
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    Seems the Rich get Richer and......you know the rest....:(
     
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    #17 Clave, Jun 7, 2011
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    OK, here's what I am going to do:

    I will put a picture on here from time to time, that *might* be a t-shirt... ;)

    Of course such things are not on sale, as that would not be allowed...

    But if someone were to send me a message, they *might* get a private link to somewhere interesting.... ;)
     
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    #18 Clave, Jun 7, 2011
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    Oh look, a random picture...
     

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    #19 Clave, Jun 7, 2011
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    Another picture:
     

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    #20 Clave, Jun 7, 2011
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    Some more randomness:
     

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