Aircraft Identification V

Waynos · Jun 3, 2009

Thanks.

Graeme · Jun 4, 2009

Patoruzu said:
GRAEME I guess the PZL 30 as it was an cvil airliner have an fixed Undercarriage

G'day Patoruzu! I've read (happy to be corrected) that the PZL.30 airliner never flew as such, because as you said, LOT had no interest in it and therefore it was completed as a "combat proficiency trainer" which flew in March 1936. This formed the basis for the production PZL.30A Zubr. Possibly either one had the fixed undercarriage? However I can find no mention of it in books. Poor drawings but the PZL.30/BI definitely had a side fuselage wheel well as opposed to the LWS nacelle retracting undercarriage...

carson1934 · Jun 4, 2009

Thanks Waynos and thanks Marcogrifo I would really appreciate new denominations for my "push/pull" list which I have recently started.
On the other hand I'm happy to announce that my list of "contrarotating props" is going very well with new additions trickling in.
I'll soon update it
Cheers
carson1934

carson1934 · Jun 4, 2009

Waynos said:
Carson, can you provide a link for your thread aircrafts in push/pull configuration as I cannot find it and I have a picture foryou that you might not have seen before.

Your flying wing reminds me of an early Lippisch test plane but I'm not finding it so easy as you might think

I'll give you a clue concerning the flying wing: it isn't german and it was a one-off model of the middle thirties.....
carson1934

Patoruzu · Jun 4, 2009

Great GRAEME Also happy to be corrected. Thanks a lot -

AMCKen · Jun 4, 2009

Graeme said:
G'day Patoruzu! I've read (happy to be corrected) that the PZL.30 airliner never flew as such, because as you said, LOT had no interest in it and therefore it was completed as a "combat proficiency trainer" which flew in March 1936. This formed the basis for the production PZL.30A Zubr. Possibly either one had the fixed undercarriage? However I can find no mention of it in books. Poor drawings but the PZL.30/BI definitely had a side fuselage wheel well as opposed to the LWS nacelle retracting undercarriage...

Looks the the upper drawing, 'port side view' shows the inward retracting gear and the lower starboard shows a rearward gear. ?

carson1934 · Jun 4, 2009

Hello gentlemen,

Help required: does the attached image represent a Curtiss-Wright BT/32 "condor"?
There are conflicting views over the identification with a friend of mine.
Thanks in advance
carson1934

Patoruzu · Jun 5, 2009

AMCKen said:
Looks the the upper drawing, 'port side view' shows the inward retracting gear and the lower starboard shows a rearward gear. ?

Morning ACMKen
There two different airplanes - Upper the PZL 30-BI and below PZL 30-BII- Note that the nacelles are also different.

carson1934 · Jun 5, 2009

carson1934 said:
I'll give you a clue concerning the flying wing: it isn't german and it was a one-off model of the middle thirties.....
carson1934

Since there are no takers yet for this flying wing and valuable space should be made for other , more interesting and enthralling challenges, I'll inform you that it is the Nieuport-Delage NID/941 of 1935 (only one prototype was built).
Cheers
carson1934
Nieuport-Delage NiD-941 - Tourisme - Un siècle d'aviation française

Marcogrifo · Jun 5, 2009

OK, guess this:

P.S.: I decided in this case I do not hide the code on fuselage because it shoudn't help so much in guessing the plane (but someone can always contradict me... )

Cheers

Marcogrifo · Jun 5, 2009

carson1934 said:
Hello gentlemen,

Help required: does the attached image represent a Curtiss-Wright BT/32 "condor"?
There are conflicting views over the identification with a friend of mine.
Thanks in advance
carson1934

Dear carson,
this below is an excerpt from Putnam's "Curtiss Aircraft 1907 - 1947", I hope can help you...

And here below is a detail of your photo, where (barely visible on lower surface of low wing) I can see what IMO is the chinese air force insigna, so that should be the only one plane sold to China. Do you agree?

Cheers

verner · Jun 6, 2009

Carson, there were other models also:

vikingBerserker · Jun 6, 2009

Marcogrifo said:
And here below is a detail of your photo, where (barely visible on lower surface of low wing) I can see what IMO is the chinese air force insigna, so that should be the only one plane sold to China. Do you agree?

Nicely done!

I did not even notice it.

carson1934 · Jun 6, 2009

Marcogrifo said:
Dear carson,
this below is an excerpt from Putnam's "Curtiss Aircraft 1907 - 1947", I hope can help you...

And here below is a detail of your photo, where (barely visible on lower surface of low wing) I can see what IMO is the chinese air force insigna, so that should be the only one plane sold to China. Do you agree?

Cheers

Hi Marcogrifo,
what a keen eyesight you have...and thanks for pointing it out to me.
I agree with the Chinese insignia
Nicely done
carson1934

carson1934 · Jun 6, 2009

verner said:
Carson, there were other models also:

Hi Verner,
what a fascinating story about Curtiss Condors'!
In my opinion even if it wasn't a milestone in passenger air travel it was an important step in fostering air transportation for the general public albeit it remained in service for just three years.
The picture you have attached must be CO Condor (Mod.53) of 1929; of course comprehensive information may be obtained through Aerofiles
Cheers and have a very nice week end
carson1934

carson1934 · Jun 8, 2009

Just to keep the ball rolling, what is it?
carson19348)8)

Waynos · Jun 8, 2009

Is it the Nord Norvegie ?(sorry about the guessed spelling but if its right you'll understand )

Graeme · Jun 9, 2009

Marcogrifo said:
OK, guess this:

What was the final verdict with this one Marcogrifo? The tail looks like a Macchi?

carson1934 said:
Just to keep the ball rolling, what is it?

The SFAN 11, Carson.

SFAN 11 -

Waynos said:
Is it the Nord Norvegie ?(sorry about the guessed spelling but if its right you'll understand )

The Nord NC.856 Norvigie. The tail is different and the SFAN dates back to 1940 (I think).

carson1934 · Jun 9, 2009

Marcogrifo said:
OK, guess this:

P.S.: I decided in this case I do not hide the code on fuselage because it shoudn't help so much in guessing the plane (but someone can always contradict me... )

Cheers

Hi Marcogrifo,
for some strange reasons your post appeared on my PC only this morning and I'm glad you submitted it.
It is the: LAR GR-2 of 1959, product of an unknown (at least for me) italian manufacturer.
The only picture about this A/C I found on Aviastar but no other information.
Any additional information you may have on this aircraft is appreciated
carson1934

carson1934 · Jun 9, 2009

Graeme said:
What was the final verdict with this one Marcogrifo? The tail looks like a Macchi?

The SFAN 11, Carson.

SFAN 11 -

The Nord NC.856 Norvigie. The tail is different and the SFAN dates back to 1940 (I think).

Concerning my post #3276 it is the SFAN/11, a french liaison and recce prototype of 1940.
concerning Marcogrifo's mystery plane please see my today's post to him.
Cheers
carson1934

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