fubar57
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"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (6 Viewers)
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Parked beside a Tractor
The Canadian and Finnish ones are not due to be replaced fully until -2030. The Spanish ones 2037.I second that. Notice we are talking old Hornets here, not the newer superhornets.
Retired RAAF fighter jets could be sent to Ukraine
Australia, the US and Ukraine are discussing sending 41 Royal Australian Air Force F/A-18 Hornets to Kyiv, rather than sending them to the scrapheap as planned.www.afr.com
However that should only be the start ... Canada, Finland, Spain should follow pace, all of them have some F-18 that are about to be retired soon.
E.g.:
Spain finalizes $2.1 billion deal for 20 Eurofighters to replace old F-18s
Eurofighter had something of a lock on replacing the oldest of Spain's American-made planes, stationed on the popular tourist island of Gran Canaria. The government in Madrid had cleared the purchase in late 2021.www.defensenews.com
Why scrap if you can recycle. And why recycle if you can reuse.
Russia-Ukraine war: Hawkei armoured vehicles bound for front lines in Australian support deal
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
I hope there are enough quality F/A-18s to assemble a capable squadron or two.
If the dam was mined by the russians, which is really possible, then a structural failure in the dam may have caused these explosives to detonate, massivly widening the breach in short time.
Whats strange are the massive breaches left and right from turbine house with a small breach right through the turbine house
Whats strange are the massive breaches left and right from turbine house with a small breach right through the turbine house
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Admiral Beez
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RogerdeLluria
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Spain bought 2 batches of F-18
A 1rst batch of 72 EF-18A and EF-18B (EF-18A/B is the version McDonellDouglas built for Spain based on the F/A-18A/B).
A second batch of 24 F/A-18A/B that was bought second hand directly from US Navy.
The first batch was modernized to EF-18M in 2009
The second batch is due for replacement and it has already been approved the program to buy 20 Euro-Fighters to replace them (programa Halcon).
It is expected that the remaining 20 F/A-18A/B (4 have been lost) are retired in 2024. Timing is perfect to send them to Ukraine, why not retire them a few months earlier.
As for the EF-18M what i heard is they they will be replaced by a mix of Eurofighters and F-35. After all Spain has to buy a few F-35 to replace its aging Harriers anyway.
I don't know where you got the 2037 date, but I think they will start to be retired well before the end of this decade.
RogerdeLluria
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US intelligence points to Russia being behind Ukraine dam attack - NBC News
U.S. intelligence is pointing to Russia being behind the destruction of a massive dam in Ukraine, NBC News reported on Tuesday.
www.reuters.com
I got the 2037 date direct from the Spanish Air Force during a meeting with them and all other Hornet operators late last year.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Clearly the work of the Azov mother/daughter team.
US had intelligence of Ukrainian plan to attack Nord Stream project -Washington Post
The United States learned of a Ukrainian plan to attack the Nord Stream natural gas pipelines three months before they were damaged last September by underwater explosions, The Washington Post reported on Tuesday, citing leaked information posted online.
www.reuters.com
'The volume of water is colossal': The moment a Ukrainian dam was destroyed and the war changed forever
On the morning the Nova Kakhova dam was blown up in southern Ukraine, resident Hanna Zarudnia woke to both shelling and flooding. Then she was "surrounded by water from all sides".
www.abc.net.au
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
They had been laying low for a while.
Admiral Beez
Captain
I'd rather we just expedited F-16s. It's not for lack of aircraft that Ukraine has been denied NATO-origin fighters until now. My vote is as a reaction to Russia's latest war crime we send the first, if only a symbolic few F-16s this month. And release ATACAMS tomorrow - target 1, Kerch bridge.
Some positive F-16 news today…
âThat was a happy dayâ: Zelenskyy on F-16 offer from partners
President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has noted that Ukraine will receive âa large numberâ of modernised F-16 multi-purpose fighter jets from international partners.
www.pravda.com.ua
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Solution: start a go fund me, and we'll just build them new ones.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Jobs right here in the U.S.A. too! Win win!
Snautzer01
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"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again."
Perhaps not an apt analogy but the First and Second World Wars did much to improve the U.S. economy. True, but it is, with all i know of, this a good cause. You see, all the investments the US made in Europe will come back in jobs and whatever now. There is no sentiment against spending...
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Jabberwocky
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Some very interesting goings on around Bakhmut. Several pro-Russian/pro-Wagner accounts (notably Rybar) are reporting rapid Ukrainian advances to the north of the city, into the town of Berkhivka or even beyond it.
Ukrainian forces reportedly overran defensive points between a couple of water features and then penetrated at least another 1 km, if not further. This is territory that Russia only took about 6 weeks ago.
If the Russian accounts are true (and that's a big IF), it puts a large section of the Russian line under immense pressure. In particular, Russian troops who have been advancing Northwest from Dubovo-Vasylivka would have their main supply route cut. There could be a very rapid volte face for troops there, collapsing the salient.
Of course, this could just be Wagner linked milbloggers spreading shit. But, Rybar has been reasonably accurate with its mapping, so that's something to consider.
Ukrainian forces reportedly overran defensive points between a couple of water features and then penetrated at least another 1 km, if not further. This is territory that Russia only took about 6 weeks ago.
If the Russian accounts are true (and that's a big IF), it puts a large section of the Russian line under immense pressure. In particular, Russian troops who have been advancing Northwest from Dubovo-Vasylivka would have their main supply route cut. There could be a very rapid volte face for troops there, collapsing the salient.
Of course, this could just be Wagner linked milbloggers spreading shit. But, Rybar has been reasonably accurate with its mapping, so that's something to consider.
RogerdeLluria
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Its perfectly plausible that 2037 is the date when the last replacement aircraft is delivered to the Spanish Air Force (be it a Eurofighter or a F-35). But that does not mean the F-18 can't start the retirement phase much earlier. Those planes have been flying since the mid eighties.
As an example, in the particular case of the Halcon program, Spanish Airforce will buy 20 Eurofighters (tranche 4) to replace the ex-USNavy A/F-18 stationed in Canary Islands. The F-18s already started to be retired (reportedly in 2021) and are expected to complete retirement by 2024 (2025 at most). However the first delivery of Eurofighter replacements is not expected until 2026 and deliveries will last until 2030. So it's almost a decade since retirement starts until last replacement arrives.
Also there is an ongoing project named Halcon 2 (not yet approved by government) for 25 additional Eurofighters to partially start replacing some of the modernized EF-18M. If approved, the production phase for Halcon 2 will span from 2030 to 2034. That is why I'm sure that retirement will start earlier than 2030.
What happens with the other EF-18M gets a little bit fuzzier. Spanish navy has to replace Harriers so its an opportunity for the air force to get also some F-35 to complement the growing Eurofighther fleet. There are rumors that Spain may buy 25 F-35B for the Navy and 25 F-35A for the airforce. But there is no official program yet, so it just may be wishful thinking by the armed forces. In general, government tends to favor local production of European hardware due to obvious benefits in terms of industrial base and job generation, even if its detrimental in terms of military capabilities.
