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Thumpalumpacus said:
Without delving into American politics too much, the anti-Ukrainian Congresscritters are, I think, on the back foot in terms of blocking aid. The mood is shifting against them, I think. Aid will be renewed soon, imo.

Sorry if this is too political, mods. Please delete this if that is so.
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I don't think that falls into the political danger zone.

There has to be some context in regards to aid to Ukraine.

In light of the recent aid package delay, several experts (from various fields) have addressed those assclowns elected officials and told them point blank that if we don't help Ukraine fight Russia now, then we'll have to do it eventually.

Their conclusion is that it's a solid and wise investment.
 
Apperantly...kamikaze drones.

"Ivanovets" PEPSI. As a result of the special operation of the GUR of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, a Russian missile boat was destroyed!

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Mike Williams said:
Just saw this.

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NOELREPORTS 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 video The GUR published footage of naval drone attacks on Russian missile boat Ivanovets in Ozero Donuzlav in occupied Crimea. As a result of a series of direct hits to the hull, the Russian ship suffered damage incompatible with further movement. It rolled to stern and sank.
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Yeah that's a confirmed sinking per that video.
 
More reporting...and, yes, incredible footage:

www.bbc.com

Ukraine 'hits Russian missile boat Ivanovets in Black Sea'

Military intelligence says the Ivanovets, a small warship, was destroyed in a special operation off Crimea.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

Guess this is another ship that was "damaged"...at least according to Moscow.

There's a comment in the reporting about the whole crew being evacuated after the first strike (or maybe even before...the wording is unclear). However, this video clearly shows sailors running on the deck as the second hit goes in.
 
Denniss said:
Lake Donuzlav is just ~30m deep. In theory they may recover that ship. Would require major repairs though.
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Given the size of the explosion, I reckon it'll take them decades just to find all the pieces. No way they can "repair" that ship, IMHO...although I'm sure Russia will try to spin a story that they have recovered the wreck and are putting it back in service while, in reality, simply building a new ship. The key question is whether the defence budget can continue to replace these losses. Ships are expensive and take a long time to complete. That's imposing a long, and persistent, drag on the defence budget.

In other news, EU has agreed another aid package for Ukraine.

www.bbc.com

Ukraine support package worth €50bn agreed by EU leaders

The agreement came earlier than expected, overcoming previous opposition from Hungary's Viktor Orban.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
I expect back in Feb 2022 those in the Russian navy's Black Sea fleet figured this war with Ukraine won't impact me much, it's the army and airmen that will take the hit while I sail around delivering men/supplies and lobbing missiles from afar.

I've read that Ukraine is working on sea drones that are armed with antiship missiles.
 
Mike Williams said:
Just saw this.

mstdn.social

NOELREPORTS 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 video The GUR published footage of naval drone attacks on Russian missile boat Ivanovets in Ozero Donuzlav in occupied Crimea. As a result of a series of direct hits to the hull, the Russian ship suffered damage incompatible with further movement. It rolled to stern and sank.
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Russian MoD: Corvette Ivanovets heroically destroyed multiple Ukrainian sea drones.
 
GrauGeist said:
I don't think that falls into the political danger zone.

There has to be some context in regards to aid to Ukraine.

In light of the recent aid package delay, several experts (from various fields) have addressed those assclowns elected officials and told them point blank that if we don't help Ukraine fight Russia now, then we'll have to do it eventually.

Their conclusion is that it's a solid and wise investment.
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That may be an unbalanced perspective, Dave.

Congress and the power of Congress to withold funding until Administration stops the southern invasion is not unreasonable (to me). The proposed 'compromise' of business as usual of opening the spigot for 3,999 (per day) unhindered crossings with zero vetting, in return for the funding is pathetic. The current rate is 1.2million (apprehended and released - not counting the unseen/unapprehended). Fentanyl deaths are out of control

Twenty Five Governors have agreed to send their National Guardto help Texas, the Border Patrol is supporting Texas by refusing to cut the wires, and the Administration continues to house 10,000 per day on a State Park without authority, then dispatch to the four corners immediately.

You want to get serious about Ukraine funding? Demand that Congress hold an up/down vote to declare war on Russia.. or Iran or wherever the Administration wants to go.

Assclown is perhaps not approriate to describe the folks that represent 50% (or more) of the population that are real tired of a forcibly held open door to invasion - by more folks that are fighting on both sides of Russia/Ukraine war.
 
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