"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (4 Viewers)

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No you won't. I'm not the one who wants a NATO intervention, or billions in welfare payments made to some aspiring East European ethnostate that is not a member of NATO.
I am awaiting with some interest a response to the questions I raised in posting 35,489. If it helps

a) You do know that Zelensky is Jewish, don't you.

b) How many Ukraine citizens have asked to be rescued by Russia

c) If they are so keen to be rescued by Russia, why are they fighting so hard to not be rescued.

I admit that I don't expect a reply, but I do live in hope and always believe that the you deserve the chance to support your statements.
 
I am awaiting with some interest a response to the questions I raised in posting 35,489. If it helps

a) You do know that Zelensky is Jewish, don't you.

b) How many Ukraine citizens have asked to be rescued by Russia

c) If they are so keen to be rescued by Russia, why are they fighting so hard to not be rescued.

I admit that I don't expect a reply, but I do live in hope and always believe that the you deserve the chance to support your statements.
He won't reply to your honest questions.

He (I am assuming it is a he, but hey, this is 2024, so one never knows) never responded to my questions that were on a legitimate level - all I got was a circular response that included insults.
That indicates that he/she/they doesn't have an educated grasp of their position and has to resort to the time-worn circular argument bolstered by insults in order to prop up their narrative.
 
He won't reply to your honest questions.

He (I am assuming it is a he, but hey, this is 2024, so one never knows) never responded to my questions that were on a legitimate level - all I got was a circular response that included insults.
That indicates that he/she/they doesn't have an educated grasp of their position and has to resort to the time-worn circular argument bolstered by insults in order to prop up their narrative.
I totally agree but, you never know. It might, just might raise a question in his mind.

After all, casualties north of 500,000 killed and wounded must have some impact in Russia. There is a good chance that he may know someone who has payed in blood for Putin's ego.
 
If you feel so strongly about the war then book a flight to Ukraine and get in the trenches and fight, instead of hiding behind your keyboard. Same goes for the other heroes who are all talk and no action.

So you're posting from the front-lines?

Right, I didn't think so.

No you won't. I'm not the one who wants a NATO intervention, or billions in welfare payments made to some aspiring East European ethnostate that is not a member of NATO.

But you are the one slugging for Russia online without any skin in the game.
 
That's the trouble with self-determination. Which selves get to make the determination.
Kiev and Muscovy have a long history. There are many Muscovites who have lived in Ukraine for generations. The modern borders (post 1991) of Ukraine are based on the borders of the Ukrainian SSR which voted 90% for independence in August of that year.
Do we believe that the 10% should overrule the vast majority of the populace?
For years the new Ukrainian government looked east for support. But when a new government, that wanted to turn to the West took over, Russia moved in to "protect" its own interests. Sadly there were many turncoats in both the military and the government, and the sovereignty of the country was violated. The West looked away. As it had so many times in the past: Germany - 1953, Hungary - 1956, Czechoslovakia - 1968, Moldova -1992, Georgia - 2008.
So why should this time be any different?
For eight years, Russia's proxies, aided by Spetznaz and mercenaries had been fighting in Ukraine. Crimea had been annexed with the usual finger wagging and hand wringing in the West.
Some joker got himself elected president, whose biggest claim to fame was playing piano no-handed with his pants down. Nobody was going to DO anything. UN Security Coucil resolutions could be vetoed. And after a quick occupation, and some ineffective sanctions, things could settle down to normal. After all, the American president basically said that he might permit a "small incursion".
But, nooOOOoo! Turns out the reason the guy could play the piano with no hands is he's got balls of steel. Doesn't cut and run. Shames the collective "Great Western Powers" into backing him.
So, go ahead. Toss out those conspiracy theories about Nazis and George Soros and the Illuminati, and the Military Industrial Complex and the Gnomes of Zurich.
 
I am going to lock this for a day, just to get the message through.

I don't want to see personal attacks on this thread. You guys are lucky that we allow politics in this thread, but I don't want it to go south. For the ones concerned, please be more respectful.

I will re-open the thread after a day.
 
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