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Thumpalumpacus said:
I'm pretty sure the UK, France, or Germany can build the large rockets mos' rickey-tick -- as well as the warheads. And if Europe is at stake, I think they'd share knowledge to accelerate that process.
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Europe builds its own rockets and has been doing so since the mid 1960s. Britain has sadly abandoned its own rocket research establishments, but it does provide industry support to ESA. France's nuclear deterrent is entirely independent of foreign (US) technology. Where there's a will, there's a way...

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MiTasol said:
And America doubles down on supporting Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

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So, the USA stands with Russia, the DPRK, Belarus and the mighty nation of Burkina Faso, then? In the words of a mate of mine "that's some f*ked up sh*t."

That whirring sound is generations of US anti-communists, led by Ronald Reagan spinning in their graves right now...
 
nuuumannn said:
Europe builds its own rockets and has been doing so since the mid 1960s. Britain has sadly abandoned its own rocket research establishments, but it does provide industry support to ESA. France's nuclear deterrent is entirely independent of foreign (US) technology. Where there's a will, there's a way...

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Right, these guys have been launching missiles into orbit for 30 or so years off South America, and holding SLBMs for even longer. Europe doesn't need America for anything other than defense budget, and that's getting a solid second look now.
 
I think its my Basic instinct to mess with Bullies or just pushy people in General. But if I was Signing the "Rare Earth" minerals contract. I would interpret it that the 50% of the rare earth Minerals that I just signed away to be located in the part of Ukraine currently occupied by Russia. And would expect assistance in recovering the said property so I could hand over your newly acquired rare earth possessions.

But that is just my thinking, it would never happen. ;)
 
From the above link:


MARTÍNEZ: You said that they're unaccounted for. They're not lost. You just can't track them. Isn't that the same thing?

CANCIAN: Well, no, because lost implies that no one knows where they are, that they're lying, you know, in a warehouse or in a ditch someplace. And we know the Ukrainians are using them. A lot of them are weapons that they have fired. And, you know, they're in active combat. So we believe that they're being used appropriately, and a lot of them, I say, being used up in combat. We just don't have the tracking on them that we would like and that is possible in peacetime.

MARTÍNEZ: Is it possible to track them at this point or are they just unaccounted for indefinitely?

CANCIAN: Well, some of them have been expended. In fact, probably most of them have been expended. A lot of them are things like anti-tank weapons and anti-aircraft weapons. I mean, the United States could do better. It's always going to be hard because, first, there's a war on. And, you know, the troops on the front line don't always fill out the paperwork appropriately the way we would like. And then we don't have very many personnel on the ground. So we don't have people at, like, warehouses to track them once they get into Ukraine. But there are probably some ways we could do better.


View: https://www.npr.org/2024/01/12/1224358013/why-are-nearly-40-000-u-s-weapons-sent-to-ukraine-unaccounted-for
 
Torch said:
It's business, the Europeans are loans, the 350 billion that was given to Ukraine was given to a corrupt government with no accountability. So now the US is getting something back is basically how I understand it.
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It's staggering how uninformed Americans are. Only 35% of our aid was a loan. If that's not true, maybe you should start wondering about the corruption claim as well….
 
Thumpalumpacus said:
MARTÍNEZ: You said that they're unaccounted for. They're not lost. You just can't track them. Isn't that the same thing?
CANCIAN: Well, no, because lost implies that no one knows where they are, that they're lying, you know, in a warehouse or in a ditch someplace. And we know the Ukrainians are using them. A lot of them are weapons that they have fired. And, you know, they're in active combat. So we believe that they're being used appropriately, and a lot of them, I say, being used up in combat. We just don't have the tracking on them that we would like and that is possible in peacetime.

MARTÍNEZ: Is it possible to track them at this point or are they just unaccounted for indefinitely?

CANCIAN: Well, some of them have been expended. In fact, probably most of them have been expended. A lot of them are things like anti-tank weapons and anti-aircraft weapons. I mean, the United States could do better. It's always going to be hard because, first, there's a war on. And, you know, the troops on the front line don't always fill out the paperwork appropriately the way we would like. And then we don't have very many personnel on the ground. So we don't have people at, like, warehouses to track them once they get into Ukraine. But there are probably some ways we could do better.


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Those who think the weapons have been sold by Ukraine to other countries or groups, because that is the inference in those claims, need to turn ON their brains for a little while and answer the obvious questions that go with these allegations.

These will be very difficult questions for you so expect a massive headache.

Naturally those who automatically thought of these and the countless other questions of logic will not get those headaches that only occur when brain-rust is forced to move.

Before you answer these questions pay attention to the highlighted statement in Thumpalumpacus Thumpalumpacus post - it is the ONLY relevant FACT in the whole disinformation that Putins puppets have aimed at the feeble minded and gullible.
  • Who would Ukraine possibly sell these weapons to?
  • Why have the purchasers not used a single one of them? Obviously if they sold them to terrorists they would have been used somewhere in the last three years.
  • Why would Ukraine sell weapons to anyone when the purchaser may well be an agent of Putin who would definitely use them to attack Ukraine?
  • Why has Putin not used any of the weapons that Ukraine sold his agents? Yes there is footage of Russians using captured tanks and other weapons but there is also footage of those tanks and other weapons being captured by the Russians.
Now, if you are actually capable of this, put yourself in the position of those wounded and/or about-to-be-killed Ukrainians civilians and military personnel fighting in Bakmut or Mariupol or any of the other hell holes destroyed by the invaders you support every time you believe the lies and missinformation that Putin and his puppets spout and answer these questions.
  • Are you going to grab any weapons at hand an use it right now or are you going to sit down and send a signal to Washington to say please Masta can I use this weapon/ammunition to protect myself and this city/town/village/location?
  • Were you even aware that Kiev is in a different time zone that is almost whole working day behind Washington? (That means start time in Kiev is almost go home time in Washington)
  • And then are you going to wait almost a full day (or more) for the reply because Washington has gone home is or enjoying their weekend? Wake up to yourself.
  • Are you going to even make any record of the weapons you used, or how many bullets you fired, etc, etc, etc when you are under attack from Russian forces?
  • And even if they did keep records during the battles in Bakmut or Mariupol or X or Y or Z, etc, how do you expect those records to have got to Washington?
  • Do you honesty believe that the Russian invaders would carefully collect those records and send them to Washington on Ukraine's behalf?
  • Are you honestly so retarded as to believe that it is possible, let alone practical, to track the use of every single item in a time of war?
It is like the latest crap from one of those I know who wholeheartedly believes the crap Putin and his puppets spout. He claims Zelensky is not a legitimate President because he was not an approved candidate. He does not know who had to approve him as a candidate and ALMOST accepts that Putin and his puppets did not have that right but still insists that Zelensky is not legally President of Ukraine.

Dimlee Dimlee may like to comment on that claim because I am sure that those who believe that Ukraine could possibly track every single item no doubt believe that crap as well.

Putin and his puppets all work on the basis of if you throw enough bullshit, throw it often enough and for long enough the mentally challenged will accept it.
 
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