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I wonder what model of transport aircraft the Ukrainians downed on those first days. If it had several hundred men on board as claimed it would need to be big. I haven't heard of any evidence of a major crash site in Ukraine.
or 2-300 Russian conscripts...They're roughly the equivalent of the C-141 and can probably carry 100-150 combat-loaded troops,
Depends as to what you would like to call or refer to a tracked vehicle weighing 48t and able to dispense (660) APDS tungsten rounds in rapid fire succession via 2x35mm cannons that
can easily destroy/disable a T-62 to T-72 tank. It's not necessary to "only" use the Flakpanzer Gepard in the AA role.
It was designed to accompany armored units onto the battlefield - to provide AA cover with 620 rounds and additionally fitted with (40) anti-tank rounds for self-defense against AFV's and MBT's.
IIRC the original Leopard I upon which the Gepard was based was very poorly armoured.It's armoured, tracked AAA. It may be able to disable another MBT but to destroy it would take an incredible amount of luck.
IIRC the original Leopard I upon which the Gepard was based was very poorly armoured.
I believe in the era of HEAT and APDS rounds and before Chobham and explosive reactive armour (ERA) the assumption was that nothing could prevent penetration. In this mindset the 70s tanks like the Leopard and AMX-30 were thinly skinned against only light guns. Many NATO MBTs of the 1960s and 70s were like battlecruisers, fast, agile, able to dish it out but not able to take it, Chieftain aside of course.Yes, the Leo 1 was very light for a MBT. The early Challenger and M1 Abrams had over 50% greater mass than the Leo 1, while the latest M1 variants are gusting close to 75% greater mass.
It's armoured, tracked AAA. It may be able to disable another MBT but to destroy it would take an incredible amount of luck. I can see it having a role against AFVs but I don't see it knocking out tanks...except, perhaps, achieving an M-kill. It isn't a tank, though.
More explosions in Belgorod, this time at an ammo depot:
Multiple explosions have been heard in the Russian city of Belgorod, about 40km (24 miles) north of the Ukrainian border, according to a local official.
On social media app Telegram, regional governor Vyacheslav Gladkov said he was woken at around 03:35 on Wednesday by the sound of an explosion.
He said that while drafting his social media post he heard another three loud booms.
Gladkov later said preliminary reports indicated an ammunition depot was on fire in a rural settlement, and "no casualties among the civilian population" had been reported.
Just my two pennies, but enough with these gotcha moment fails.
India's aid to Ukraine
India's second tranche of humanitarian aid to Ukraine arrives in Romania by IAF flight | India News - Times of India
India News: BUCHAREST: India's second tranche of humanitarian aid to Ukraine arrived in Romania by IAF flight on Wednesday and will be further transported to war-.timesofindia.indiatimes.com
China's aid to Ukraine
China says it will offer 10 million yuan more of humanitarian aid to Ukraine
The Chinese Red Cross will offer an additional 10 million yuan ($1.57 million) of humanitarian assistance to Ukraine, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin told reporters on Monday.www.reuters.com
Aid to Ukraine needn't always be weapons, but any aid that helps keep Ukrainians healthy and fed contributes to the nation's combat capability.
Africa aside, most of the world is in. List of foreign aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War - Wikipedia
It's armoured, tracked AAA. It may be able to disable another MBT but to destroy it would take an incredible amount of luck. I can see it having a role against AFVs but I don't see it knocking out tanks...except, perhaps, achieving an M-kill. It isn't a tank, though.
If you're using it against MBTs you're probably losing the battle already.
In German it is called rightfully a Panzer (tank) it is not termed Kampfpanzer (MBT). It isn't build to act as an AFV or MBT but it is able to defend itself, destroy/disable AFV's and MBT's such as in the latter case a T-54/T-62 right up to a T-72. If a Gepard is integrated into a defensive or obstructing position it could and would create havoc towards any soft target, AFV and if neccessary even an MBT.It's armoured, tracked AAA. It may be able to disable another MBT but to destroy it would take an incredible amount of luck. I can see it having a role against AFVs but I don't see it knocking out tanks...except, perhaps, achieving an M-kill. It isn't a tank, though.
In German it is called rightfully a Panzer (tank) it is not termed Kampfpanzer (MBT). It isn't build to act as an AFV or MBT but it is able to defend itself, destroy/disable AFV's and MBT's such as in the latter case a T-54/T-62 right up to a T-72. If a Gepard is integrated into a defensive or obstructing position it could and would create havoc towards any soft target, AFV and if neccessary even an MBT.
Just as an A-10 with it's 30mm (uranium depleted) API can obliterate a T-72 - so can a Gepard with it's 35mm (tungsten core) API
Just as an A-10 with it's 30mm (uranium depleted) API can obliterate a T-72 - so can a Gepard with it's 35mm (tungsten core) API
The tactical implementation (including range) of an A-10 from the air is totally different then that of a Gepard on the ground. Therefore the amount of ammo spend by an A-10 to conceive actual hits is already 30-50times higher then that of a Gepard.I can buy the ability of the Gepard to shred soft vehicles and AFVs but I still say taking out a tank would require a lucky hit in a poorly defended area (e.g engine compartment, attacking from the rear).
Your statement about the A-10 isn't actually correct. Trials of A-10s going against MBTs showed that the results really weren't that great. The one thing the A-10 has going for it is that it pumps a lot of rounds downrange very quickly (muzzle velocity is well over twice that of the Gepard), which means an initial round that creates some damage may be followed by a second or third round that can at least disable the tank. I wouldn't bet on the Gepard, shooting just 40 rounds at less than half the muzzle velocity of the A-10, shredding any T-72 that's coming towards your position...again, from the rear is a different story, but against the main armour I just don't buy it.
The tactical implementation (including range) of an A-10 from the air is totally different then that of a Gepard on the ground. Therefore the amount of ammo spend by an A-10 to conceive actual hits is already 30-50times higher then that of a Gepard.
If you have been to NATO training grounds then you would be able to see what 4-6, 35mm tungsten API will do to a T-62, between 1000-1500m, not even to mention 20-40 hits. (total overkill). The unit I served in was heavily integrated with Gepard's so we got to see quite a lot of action by this "beast".