RogerdeLluria
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Reported video of Russian Frigate Admiral Makarov. Still no confirmation it is true.
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Admiral Beez
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RogerdeLluria
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If this is true Russians will go nuts. 2 frigates in less than 24 hours. Great prologue for Russian V-day, rotflol
5 hours ago ( 2022-05-06 14:18 )
An explosion followed by burning also occurred on board the Russian Burevestnik frigate near Zmeiny Island, Dumskaya reported.
Ukraine
An explosion followed by burning also occurred on board the Russian Burevestnik frigate near Zmeiny Island, Dumskaya reported. According to preliminary information, the ship was hit by Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles. We are waiting for official information. The Krivak class, Soviet designation Project 1135 Burevestnik (storm petrel), were a series of frigates and guard ships (patrol boats) built in the Soviet Union primarily for the Soviet Navy since 1970. Later some sub-branches, like the Nerey (Nereus) were designed for coastal patrol by the KGB Border Troops. Until 1977, the ships in the class were considered to be large anti-submarine warfare vessels.
explosion on Burevestnik frigate?
5 hours ago ( 2022-05-06 14:18 )
An explosion followed by burning also occurred on board the Russian Burevestnik frigate near Zmeiny Island, Dumskaya reported.
Ukraine
An explosion followed by burning also occurred on board the Russian Burevestnik frigate near Zmeiny Island, Dumskaya reported. According to preliminary information, the ship was hit by Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles. We are waiting for official information. The Krivak class, Soviet designation Project 1135 Burevestnik (storm petrel), were a series of frigates and guard ships (patrol boats) built in the Soviet Union primarily for the Soviet Navy since 1970. Later some sub-branches, like the Nerey (Nereus) were designed for coastal patrol by the KGB Border Troops. Until 1977, the ships in the class were considered to be large anti-submarine warfare vessels.
Admiral Beez
Major
Which ship is that?
en.wikipedia.org
Krivak-class frigate - Wikipedia
buffnut453
Captain
Nope...they're different classes of ship. The Makarov is an Admiral Grigorovich-class frigate and is very new (5 yrs old, IIRC) whereas the Burevestnik is a much older Krivak-class.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Do you have a link for your report?
buffnut453
Captain
Not my report. I was simply noting that the Makarov and Burevestnik are different classes of vessel. The video at Post# 5621 appears to be the Makarov based on the planar array radar atop the mast (the Burevestnik has the oval-shaped Head Net radar).
RogerdeLluria
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Which ship is that?Krivak-class frigate - Wikipedia
Yep.
It may actually be the same ship reported twice under different names, we have to wait for confirmation. But Admiral Makarov and Burevestnik are two different ships.
buffnut453
Captain
Agreed. It seems we're seeing reporting of the same event, but with different ships identified in the reports.
RogerdeLluria
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Going back to land war. It seems Ukraine started an offensive.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
I stand corrected, and my apologies for misattributing. R RogerdeLluria , do you have a source for your report that you can link?
buffnut453
Captain
Going back to the naval war...I find it interesting that there's virtually no reporting of the Admiral Makarov in the open press. I'd have thought that the Russian media would be all over this if the ship hadn't been hit. There's also reporting of extensive helicopter operations near the ship, which tallies with reports of efforts to evacuate the crew.
I'm leaning towards thinking that it did get hit. Now to see how badly it was damaged.
I'm leaning towards thinking that it did get hit. Now to see how badly it was damaged.
Admiral Beez
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If he survives, UAF's General Serhiy Shaptala is going to have a good career in retirement lecturing at military schools around the world.
RogerdeLluria
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Only source I've seen
RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA MONITOR
RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA MONITOR
RogerdeLluria
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Zmiinyi Island is Snake island, so it may very well be same incident reported under different ship names.Only source I've seen
Many sources cite Admiral Makarov. However, the same source also report Admiral Makarov being on fireRUSSIAN PROPAGANDA MONITOR
intermarium24.com
RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA MONITOR
intermarium24.com
However, other sources claim Admiral Makarov was hit close to Krimea.
Guess we have to wait for confirmation and don't get too excited.
hawkeye2an
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After the Falklands/Melvinas there was a meme going around about Jacques Cousteau going down to place a wreath on the Argentine Navy.
RogerdeLluria
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Found two source that mix Admiral Makarov with Burevestnik
hindustannewshub.com
www.turan.az
We are probably under same incident - different names scenario. Incident has yet to be confirmed, but I'm leaning to believe 1 frigate was hit.
Trending news: Ukraine announced the defeat of the third large ship of the Black Sea Fleet - The Moscow Times - Hindustan News Hub
Ukraine announced the defeat of the third large ship of the Black Sea Fleet - The Moscow Times Hindustan News Hub
hindustannewshub.com
Russian frigate on fire off near Zmeiniy island in the Black Sea, Ukrainian media report /UPDATED/
According to updated information from the Ukrainian media, the latest frigate of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, the “Admiral Makarov” was hit by the Neptune anti-ship system. The ship at that time was off Serpent Island. It is report...
RogerdeLluria
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Aleksey Goncharenko, a Ukrainian politician and chairman of the Odessa Regional Council claims the Russian frigate Admiral Makarov - Адмирал Макаров was hit and sunk by a neptune missile. Still awaiting more official confirmation from both sides.
Seems Ukaranian claim the ship to be hit and sunk. Waiting for other sources.
Seems Ukaranian claim the ship to be hit and sunk. Waiting for other sources.
fubar57
General
It'll probably come as a Russian announcement that they have moved another submarine into the area
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Found two source that mix Admiral Makarov with Burevestnik
Trending news: Ukraine announced the defeat of the third large ship of the Black Sea Fleet - The Moscow Times - Hindustan News Hub
Ukraine announced the defeat of the third large ship of the Black Sea Fleet - The Moscow Times Hindustan News HubWe are probably under same incident - different names scenario. Incident has yet to be confirmed, but I'm leaning to believe 1 frigate was hit.Russian frigate on fire off near Zmeiniy island in the Black Sea, Ukrainian media report /UPDATED/
According to updated information from the Ukrainian media, the latest frigate of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, the “Admiral Makarov” was hit by the Neptune anti-ship system. The ship at that time was off Serpent Island. It is report...
The video of the ship burning, posted above, appears to be the Makarov, with its long forecastle mounting a single gun, a mattress radar on the mainmast, and a bulky superstructure largely aft. With credit to Dessee23 at another forum where we're discussing this war, here's a still of the burning ship compared to a peacetime photo:
I suspect the two differing reports are a matter of misidentification. Compare to a peacetime pic of a Krivak:
The forecastle and superstructure are very different from the pic of the burning ship.
