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Are there any examples of CIWS actually stopping an AShM fired in anger? I'm reminded of USS Stark where the CIWS failed to activate and prevent the two Exocet strikes. Live-fire exercises where everyone's prepared are one thing, but use in actual combat conditions seems to show different results.The AK-630 CIWS is advertised as being able to shoot down sea skimming missiles.
Jesus H. Christ. Another operational or CIWS fail? If this is true Putin's going to be as pissed as Hitler after Barrents Sea where he chucked out Admiral Raeder and essentially scrapped the surface fleet.And just a few hours later read this unconfirmed news (coincidence???)
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UPDATE: Russian Navy warship Admiral Makarov on fire - ‘no information to corroborate reports’
UPDATE 12.33 am (MAY 7) – The US Pentagon said they have no information regarding the fate of the Russian Navy warship ‘Admiral Makarov’ – first reported as being sunk but later alleged to be on fire…euroweeklynews.com
Me too, but damn this has to be embarrassing.Interesting! I'll wait and see what info is forthcoming before I get too excited.
The 3R41 Volna/Top Dome FC for the S-300 SAM, and OSA-M/MPZ-301 Baza/Pop Group for the 9M33M SAM are both FC (Fire Control) radars and subject to hand-off from the search radars.
The Top Pair radar is a rotating analog S-band pulse coded doppler radar with MTI. The Top Steer is a rotating analog S-band pulse coded doppler radar with MTI. The MR-231 Palm Frond is a fast rotating high high resolution X-band pulse coded radar. None of these radars have the ability to automatically hand off targets to the fire control radars.
Basically, the incoming sea skimming Neptune SSM would have to be detected by the MR-800 Voskhod (Top Pair) 3D air search and/or MR-710 Fregat (Top Steer) 3D air/surface search radars and/or MR-231 Nyada (Palm Frond) surface search/navigation radars, and then hand the target information necessary for the FC radars to look for the target (or in the case of the CIWS radars at least tell them to turn on in automatic mode). If the radars are not as good in terms of detection as they are advertised, or the operators are not alert and/or competent enough, they would not be able to hand off to the SAM systems or activate the AK-630 CIWS system in time.
The S-300F missile is not advertised as being able to intercept surface skimming missiles.
The 9M33M missile on the Moskva may have been capable of intercepting surface skimming missiles.
The AK-630 CIWS is advertised as being able to shoot down sea skimming missiles.
The Top Pair was on the fore mast. The Top Steer was located amidship.
Are there any examples of CIWS actually stopping an AShM fired in anger? I'm reminded of USS Stark where the CIWS failed to activate and prevent the two Exocet strikes. Live-fire exercises where everyone's prepared are one thing, but use in actual combat conditions seems to show different results.
Are there any examples of CIWS actually stopping an AShM fired in anger? I'm reminded of USS Stark where the CIWS failed to activate and prevent the two Exocet strikes. Live-fire exercises where everyone's prepared are one thing, but use in actual combat conditions seems to show different results.
At this rate they are only going to have their coal powered submarines left.
Poor Admiral Makarov, can't catch a break. Sails his flagship the battleship Petropavlovsk into a minefield and drowns. Now this.
Me too, but damn this has to be embarrassing.
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The Russians Are Losing The Naval War Off Ukraine—To An Enemy With No Warships
Ukraine’s navy, which after scuttling its flagship no longer has a single large vessel, continues to chip away at Russia’s own naval power in the Black Sea. With a big assist from Ukraine’s army, of course.www.forbes.com
It's going to be hard for Russia to have a successful VE Day parade on May 9th when pics of its latest warship on fire hit the airwaves. Apparently on May 9th the Ukrainians are planning to march a fleet of destroyed Russian tanks and vehicles down the main road in Kyiv.
Earlier this morning I read this
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The Russian Frigate ‘Admiral Makarov’ Might Be The Juiciest Target In The Black Sea
After the dramatic sinking of the missile-cruiser Moskva by a Ukrainian missile battery on April 14, the Russian Black Sea Fleet is down to just three major surface combatants. The best and most important of them might be the new missile-frigate 'Admiral Makarov.'www.forbes.com
And just a few hours later read this unconfirmed news (coincidence???)
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UPDATE: Russian Navy warship Admiral Makarov on fire - ‘no information to corroborate reports’
UPDATE 12.33 am (MAY 7) – The US Pentagon said they have no information regarding the fate of the Russian Navy warship ‘Admiral Makarov’ – first reported as being sunk but later alleged to be on fire…euroweeklynews.com
It seems it didn't sunk (yet) just hit by a missile and is on fire, altough moskva started with a fire an ended sunk.
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Russian frigate Admiral Makarov ‘on fire after being hit by Ukrainian missile’
Ship was sailing near Snake Island when hit, say reportswww.independent.co.uk