MiTasol
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Of course they will unless Dear Leader removes his support for the poo tin
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Of course they will unless Dear Leader removes his support for the poo tin
And on that note, we can refrain from wording our posts in a manner that goes down the political rabbit hole we don't want. Right?
Pretty damn close to the stuff we don't allow here.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
They have a problem ... a cancellation.
Putin says Russia wants end to war in Ukraine
Putin made the comments a day after U.S. President Joe Biden hosted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy in the White House and promised him continued and unwavering U.S. support. "Our goal is not to spin the flywheel of military conflict, but, on the contrary, to end this war," Putin said...
Except Putler's idea on ending the war is Ukraine surrendering the lands Russia has illegally taken.
Glider
Captain
And the Chinese are making them, to Russia
Caught on Camera, Traced by Phone: The Russian Military Unit That Killed Dozens in Bucha (Published 2022)
Exclusive evidence obtained in a monthslong investigation identifies the Russian regiment — and commander — behind one of the worst atrocities in Ukraine.
Things like this make me wish for a real James Bond to rendition that Lt. Col. to The Hague.Caught on Camera, Traced by Phone: The Russian Military Unit That Killed Dozens in Bucha (Published 2022)
Exclusive evidence obtained in a monthslong investigation identifies the Russian regiment — and commander — behind one of the worst atrocities in Ukraine.www.nytimes.com
There has been no violation of the no politics rule. There is a specific type of political talk we do not allow. Everything about the war is political, should we also stop talking about WW2 too? It has politics written all over it.
Let's also be honest. If the "offending posts" were about people on the other side of the aisle, the people complaining would either "agree" or be quiet. And that is 100% fact. Let's not kid ourselves here. It works both ways.
The posts I assume that are offending, were not political, but rather about the specific act they were doing during a speech by a world leader directly related to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. That is what we are discussing in this thread right?
There were also some posts about the people that think Putin is just in his war. Some say its because they are naive and young (Maybe). Those particular people also tend to watch a lot of Comrade Carlson (Thats not political either, he is simply a douche).
None of the posts were about a political party or its ideology, or about any policy and its merit. Nor where they attacking a party or its policies. The politics being discussed, however, do pertain directly to the war. Since we stated over and over we have EASED the no-politics rule so that this conflict can be discussed, what is the big deal?
Now having said that…
EVERYONE SHOULD BE FULLY AWARE OF THE TYPE OF POLITICAL DISCUSSION THAT IS NOT ALLOWED. AND THIS TYPE OF POLITICAL DISCUSSION IS NOT AND WILL NOT BE ALLOWED BY ANYONE. MODERATING STAFF INCLUDED.
(The All Caps was not me yelling at anyone, just emphasizing the intent of the No Politics Rule.)
As long as that political discussion is not taking place, what is the problem? It's too easy just to scroll past posts you don't like anyhow (Hint to one member who keeps reporting every single post he does not like. Even ones in the Joke thread. You know who you are.) That's the problem with this world today, you can't say anything without fear of someone being offended. And that goes for everyone.
Lighten up, and lets enjoy conversing different views without being overly political and insulting. Life's too short my friends.
Edit: I did comment on the type of people that would elect a child molester and sex trafficker. I guess that was pretty close to being to political. I'll refrain from that going forward, however, the point still stands character wise.
Hi Der Adler,
Despite my recent outburst several days back (I'm still trying to figure what I thought I'd accomplish), I think we're on the same page, though still separated on a few points.
Your opening sentence noted that there had been no violation of the politics rule, but your closing sentence cautioned against being overly insulting. Your edit reflected on an earlier comment, and I can appreciate that.
There were several recent insulting comments which drew my response. Notes that loyalty will be rewarded by Russian friends, that congressmen can be loyal subjects of Russia, who should be pole dancing in a nudie bar. Or perhaps the recent comment that calls a Fox news commentator "comrade" and a douche...
My final point (before I'm banned?) is that those comments are highly insulting. I doubt anyone here would accept those descriptions if they were leveled at anyone we cared about. I just get my undies twisted when those comments are tossed about folks on my side of the isle, even if I don't agree with those folks. I'm just being honest because - as I see it - that's 100% fact.
So, with that in mind, regardless of our sides of the isle, best wishes for Christmas and the new year and every other holiday we can celebrate.
Dana
Well yeah, Comrade Carlson is a douche and Putin's employee of the month. Gaetz is a child sex trafficker (That's the lowest of the lowest). And Boebert and Green are fake news conspiracy nuts. It is what it is.
Let's be honest here, if I insulted number 47 (and I can think of a lot of reasons to) would you really care? I doubt it.
And why would I ban you? You have done nothing wrong. Am I that much of an asshole that you think I will ban you?
People do not get banned for speaking their mind in a civil manner. We all have differences of opinions. We will not see eye to eye from time to time. And thankfully so, life, let alone this forum would be boring if we all agreed 100% of the time.
I think its funny that you say we are on the opposite side of the aisle. Tell me what side I'm on? I can tell you I sit on neither one, but I think my voting record would surprise you.
Merry Christmas, and Happy not Banning you.
And now can we return to the regularly scheduled programming of discussing the Ukraine War, and its valiant fight against the Orc?
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Mazactly. To quote Lenin, "Who -- whom?"
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Is Russia pulling more equipment from its east? I believe stuff was pulled out of Kaliningrad (that must have been an interesting route). Putin might just be listening to Xi. Putler doesn't have much left to keep China out of Haishenwai. Probably easier than fighting India over rocks.
There has been no violation of the no politics rule. There is a specific type of political talk we do not allow. Everything about the war is political, should we also stop talking about WW2 too? It has politics written all over it.
Let's also be honest. If the "offending posts" were about people on the other side of the aisle, the people complaining would either "agree" or be quiet. And that is 100% fact. Let's not kid ourselves here. It works both ways.
The posts I assume that are offending, were not political, but rather about the specific act they were doing during a speech by a world leader directly related to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. That is what we are discussing in this thread right?
There were also some posts about the people that think Putin is just in his war. Some say its because they are naive and young (Maybe). Those particular people also tend to watch a lot of Comrade Carlson (Thats not political either, he is simply a douche).
None of the posts were about a political party or its ideology, or about any policy and its merit. Nor where they attacking a party or its policies. The politics being discussed, however, do pertain directly to the war. Since we stated over and over we have EASED the no-politics rule so that this conflict can be discussed, what is the big deal?
Now having said that…
EVERYONE SHOULD BE FULLY AWARE OF THE TYPE OF POLITICAL DISCUSSION THAT IS NOT ALLOWED. AND THIS TYPE OF POLITICAL DISCUSSION IS NOT AND WILL NOT BE ALLOWED BY ANYONE. MODERATING STAFF INCLUDED.
(The All Caps was not me yelling at anyone, just emphasizing the intent of the No Politics Rule.)
As long as that political discussion is not taking place, what is the problem? It's too easy just to scroll past posts you don't like anyhow (Hint to one member who keeps reporting every single post he does not like. Even ones in the Joke thread. You know who you are.
Lighten up, and lets enjoy conversing different views without being overly political and insulting. Life's too short my friends.
Edit: I did comment on the type of people that would elect a child molester and sex trafficker. I guess that was pretty close to being to political. I'll refrain from that going forward, however, the point still stands character wise.
Hi Der Adler,
Despite my recent outburst several days back (I'm still trying to figure what I thought I'd accomplish), I think we're on the same page, though still separated on a few points.
Your opening sentence noted that there had been no violation of the politics rule, but your closing sentence cautioned against being overly insulting. Your edit reflected on an earlier comment, and I can appreciate that.
There were several recent insulting comments which drew my response. Notes that loyalty will be rewarded by Russian friends, that congressmen can be loyal subjects of Russia, who are
Well yeah, Comrade Carlson is a douche and Putin's employee of the month. Gaetz is a child sex trafficker (That's the lowest of the lowest). And Boebert and Green are fake news conspiracy nuts. It is what it is.
Let's be honest here, if I insulted number 47 (and I can think of a lot) would you really care? I doubt it.
And why would I ban you? You have done nothing wrong. Am I that much of an asshole that you think I will ban you?
People do not get banned for speaking their mind in a civil manner. We all have differences of opinions. We will not see eye to eye from time to time. And thankfully so, life, let alone this forum would be boring if we all agreed 100% of the time.
I think its funny that you say we are on the opposite side of the aisle. Tell me what side I'm on? I can tell you I sit on neither one, but I think my voting record would surprise you.
Merry Christmas, and Happy not Banning you.
Well yeah, Comrade Carlson is a douche... I should have realized you would know.
I don't care which side you're on - I only care how you treat the other side.
As much as I enjoy my periodic visits to this site, I'm going to skip out over a fundimental disagreement about what's acceptable here.
Dana
Thumpalumpacus
Major
I don't see that as needed myself. First, you bring a lot to the table. Second, and more to the point, when I want to vent politically, I have other sites that I go to where that is permitted.
Each site has its own rules, and I just design my surfing around that so that when I want to discuss one topic I've got one site, when I want to discuss another I go elsewhere, and so on. It'd be a shame to lose your knowledge over something this menial, it seems to me.
I think what's being said here is that as Clausewitz noted, war is an extension of politics, but there's a difference between politics and partisanship. Politics is being tolerated in this thread, because it is driving this war; but partisanship is different in that it brings up internal divides that tend to devolve into a mess.
That is not aimed at you, just so you know. I'm pretty sure we don't agree politically, but who cares? There are forums to hash out political arguments, and I take my own to those spots.
That is your choice. I hate to see you go, but I won't beg you to stay. Peace be with you my friend.
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Well said on all accounts.
You always prove to be a very level headed poster. I wish everyone is the same. Its very sad that partisanship destroys so many things.
Thanks for being here my friend.
And for the record. I don't have anything against either side of the coin. I have something against individuals though from both sides of the coin. And in the context of this thread and topic, I have a problem with the four people I mentioned, not because of their party, but because of their actions and behavior. Fortunately I think most on both sides only want the best, and are willing to work together to do so.
Now seriously, can we please rejoin the regularly scheduled programming of the Ukraine War?
What I find funny here is that Putin says the US supplying weapons to Ukraine aggravates the war, but its ok for Syria, Iran, and North Korea to supply Russia.
My bad, I need to stop finding logic in Putin's thinking.
Kremlin warning: More US arms to Ukraine will aggravate war
My bad, I need to stop finding logic in Putin's thinking.
Kremlin warning: More US arms to Ukraine will aggravate war
Putin claims Russia wanted to join civilised world but never made it happen
Vladimir Putin, the President of Russia, has stated that the Russian Federation has always wanted to be a part of the civilised world, but never became it. Source: Russian state-owned news agency RIA Novosti Quote: "We always wanted to be a part of this so-called civilised world.
I think he is right…
"How does this war end?" Graham said. "When Russia breaks and they take Putin out. Anything short of that, the war's gonna continue. To ask the Ukrainians to give Russia part of their country after all this death and destruction is not gonna happen. To signal a ceasefire, Russia will take the opportunity to rearm and come at them again. So, we're in it to win it and the only way you're gonna win it is to break the Russian military and have somebody in Russia take Putin out to give the Russian people a new lease on life."
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"How does this war end?" Graham said. "When Russia breaks and they take Putin out. Anything short of that, the war's gonna continue. To ask the Ukrainians to give Russia part of their country after all this death and destruction is not gonna happen. To signal a ceasefire, Russia will take the opportunity to rearm and come at them again. So, we're in it to win it and the only way you're gonna win it is to break the Russian military and have somebody in Russia take Putin out to give the Russian people a new lease on life."
Lindsey Graham Says Ukraine War Won't End Unless Russians Take Out Putin
The Republican senator offered his not-so-diplomatic take as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy visited Washington.
