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The big difference, military base vs hospital wing
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Not bad. I do take issue with this line though: "It also must deliver more armored vehicles, specifically German Leopard-2 Tanks; the U.S. must twist Germany's arm until those tanks reach Ukraine."An interesting article I just read regarding potential 2023 operations to be found here. It's got a lot of pertinent points that defy excerpting, so I'll just post the link. It's worth the read.
Not bad. I do take issue with this line though: "It also must deliver more armored vehicles, specifically German Leopard-2 Tanks; the U.S. must twist Germany's arm until those tanks reach Ukraine."
As I have said/questioned before - why the focus on Germany and the Leo 2s? What about M1 Abrams or Leclerc's or Challengers or Arietes or K1s or Merkavas?
Looking at the numbers:
- M1 Abrams: The US army alone supposedly has some 2500 in service and another 3500+ in storage - surely some of those could be supplied?
- Leo 2s: Germany has about 300 in service.
- Leclerc: France has some 220 odd
- Ariete: Italy has some 200
- K1: Korea has some 1500 in service
- Merkava: Israel has produced ~2000 over the years and even the older ones would be welcomed...along with some Namer IFVs...
Israel will not do anything that will compromise it's security.
In regards to Germany and the Leopard. It's not about Germany parting with it's Leopards but not allowing any other nation from sending theirs.
The Abrams is an obvious choice for Ukraine, but it would take time to not only get the tanks into Ukraine, but spare parts and ammunition, too.
Then there's the training factor (crews and mechanics) that would keep them off the battlefield for over half a year, at least.
The idea of sending former Soviet equipment to Ukraine is the best choice at the moment: zero down time for crews and zero down time for mechanics. Spare parts not only in depots, but being drug in by farmers as well as ammunition already in stockpiles, nearby nations and donated by the Russians.
This means no interruptions in offensive/defensive ops.
Agreed plus they have a large ex-Russian community.Israel will not do anything that will compromise it's security.
Agreed - my point was more that the focus is often put on Germany and the Leo2s as though they are the only game in town re more modern tanks.The Abrams is an obvious choice for Ukraine, but it would take time to not only get the tanks into Ukraine, but spare parts and ammunition, too.
Then there's the training factor (crews and mechanics) that would keep them off the battlefield for over half a year, at least.
Agree again.The idea of sending former Soviet equipment to Ukraine is the best choice at the moment: zero down time for crews and zero down time for mechanics. Spare parts not only in depots, but being drug in by farmers as well as ammunition already in stockpiles, nearby nations and donated by the Russians.
As I've mentioned before, I suspect there's alot of things going on behind the curtain that's not being shared with the media.Right, but when driving we're told to look down the road, not at the end of the hood. The time for us to start taking these steps is now, even they won't come to fruition for 12-18 months. The Ukrainians will be in danger for a long time to come, after all.
It's the only pan-European MBT. AIUI, the issue is that other Leopard II operators would like to consider donating their tanks to Ukraine, but they can't unless Germany provides the spares and maintenance support. It's fine if Germany doesn't want to share their Leo2 tanks, but Germany is also blocking Poland, the Baltics Reps, Finland, and others from sending Leo2 to Ukraine. At least that's my take.As I have said/questioned before - why the focus on Germany and the Leo 2s?
Can't disagree with the thoughts expressed here:
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Ukraine war: Putin should face trial this year, says top lawyer
Russia's leader is a "guilty man", says the barrister who led the case against Serbia's ex-leader Milosevic.www.bbc.com
Agreed. And as for a trial, Putin didn't do this alone. It's the Russian people who Ukraine and the world will need to on day come to terms and forgive. There needs to be a type of denazificafion or national mindset change like in Germany or Japan post-WW2.Sadly, Putin will likely never pay the price for his own crimes, and the crimes he has ordered, aided, and abetted. Neither Russia nor the world will heal until he's breathing dirt.
Agreed. And as for a trial, Putin didn't do this alone. It's the Russian people who Ukraine and the world will need to on day come to terms and forgive. There needs to be a type of denazificafion or national mindset change like in Germany or Japan post-WW2.
This came out shortly after the Russian invasion of Ukraine:What about this little wannabe git?