Admiral Beez
Major
Not if the obstructionist Turks have anything to say about it.
"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (21 Viewers)
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Not if the obstructionist Turks have anything to say about it.
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
They can't be fired from NATO, but is there a way we can maneuver them into quitting?
Asking for a friend.
Admiral Beez
Major
Pushing them into the arms of the Russians and militant islamists would do the trick. That's how we fixed Syria.
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
They're obviously not on the same page. Why pretend otherwise?
Admiral Beez
Major
True enough, Syria was a bad example and poor choice. But kicking Turkey out of NATO or otherwise forcing their hand on new members (Sweden, Finland, Moldova, etc.) may have unintended consequences.
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swampyankee
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I tend to think it would drive Turkey closer to Russia (remember, Russia was long an enemy of the predecessor state to Turkey, the Ottoman Empire) and to extremist elements. There's precedent for unpleasant regimes to remain in NATO: Greece, under the colonels, and Portugal was brought in while it was a military dictatorship. One difference is, of course, that Turkey is being neutral with respect to Russia (and may be clandestinely supportive were Russia to invade Armenia) regarding its invasion of a sovereign country within Europe.
Turkey isn't the only member whose actions are questionable with respect to the invasion of Ukraine. See, for example, Hungary blocking release of €500 million in EU military aid to Ukraine
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
I remember way back when, a camp counselor said of the Chrysler turbine car "you can pee in the tank and it'll go". Could the AGT-1500 could run on ordinary, run of the mill, hardware store type kerosene?
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
There is only one left in the world (I think). Jay Leno has it. See Jay Leno's Garage on YT.
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Ou est le pissoir?
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Leno is the only private owner - six others are in various museums and Chrysler has two.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
It's a really cool car.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
A side bonus is that tail-gaters are dealt a harsh lesson.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Yes, any grade of Kerosene.
Plus any type of diesel, various grades of jet fuel, gasoline and probably even moonshine...
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Funny how the obstructionist NATO states about aiding Ukraine seem to be the ones ruled by charter members of the Strongman Club, isn't it? Suppose they're feeling existential angst being surrounded by democracies and secretly sympathize with Uncle Vlad? "And so that government of the sheeple, by the right people, for the Supreme Leader, shall never vanish from this earth."
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GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
US Abrams Tank ‘Destroyed’ In Ukraine, Unable To Operate In Harsh Winters: Russian Social Media Abuzz With Hilarious Claims
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Glider
Major
A totally different engine, but we used to say about the Nimbus on a Wasp helicopter, that if you could pour it, and set fire to it, then the Nimbus would run on it.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Nothing new under the sun, really - the Ford Model T could run on just about anything that was flammable, due to it's engine's low compression ratio!
Excellent article. Well worth a look. Thanks.
