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Even if they don't provide their own Leopards, Germany needs to provide spares and support; not just look the other way while the Poles, Czechs, Canadians, Baltic Reps, etc. send their Leopards to Ukraine.
The task is not finished until the paperwork is completed and filed....(notice on privy wall)Germany allegedly blocking Leo2 exports: No one of the countries has actually filed a formal request for an export permission. As you know we germans do not much without correct paperwork.
Invading comes to mind. And the diesel gate. And in fact quite a few.As you know we germans do not much without correct paperwork.
It's amazing how much paperwork the Germans created for use later against themselves in the Nuremberg Trials. I mean, if you're going to murder millions of people and steal so much property, perhaps cataloguing it all is not a smart idea?As you know we germans do not much without correct paperwork.
Unless you take into account conscripts recording everything with their smartphones, and posting to social networks.The Russians on the other hand in today's Ukraine seem to take the opposite tack. Systematically murder, rape and steal, but deny everything, record nothing.
And they do it for free !!!You mean, like, rendered inert, and deposited in a landfill.
I believe Ukraine has some promising sites.
There's always something interesting to be found on the wall there...The task is not finished until the paperwork is completed and filed....(notice on privy wall)
Not that they have actually asked permission to date as evidenced by Polish Prime Minister's words this week.The Polish Prime Minister stated yesterday that this war will be won by Ukraine with or without Germany.
He also said Poland, and possibly other countries, will send more to Ukraine anyway.
From what I understand, Poland actually wanted an all Abrams fleet but because the US wasn't able to supply 750 - 1000 Abrams fast enough they have gone/are going with the mixed fleet of M1A1/A1A2 SEP v3/K-2.The first shipment of K2 tanks and K9 howitzers from South Korea has arrived with Poland intending to build their
tank fleet to 1000 of the K2 plus purchases of Abrams.
I think it has become apparent that both sides of German politics have allowed their Military to atrophy for the last 20+ years - see here for some commentary:I read a comment at one site that simply said the German government has done more to wreck their own arms industry than
the bombing offensive in World War 2. Harsh maybe but possibly pointed in the right direction.
As evidenced by the Polish Prime Minister's own words it is now apparent that they have not asked permission. They were quite happy to blame Germany for saying No but it seems that they never actually bothered to ask in the first place. Hence my comments about playing games..."Berlin asked for permission to send German-made Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine." Surely in the name of all that is holy that has already been asked months ago? Otherwise, what's all the chatter in Ramstein about?