"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (5 Viewers)
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Thumpalumpacus
Major
Not a slag on you, it's just a trope in the press that is getting irksome by now.
Don't worry - I am with you there.
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
But jet fuel sounds so much sexier!
Admiral Beez
Major
Isn't the Challenger 2 also multi-fuel? It prefers diesel but can run on anything?
We're not hearing anything about the Challengers anymore.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
The media is notorious for using technical tidbits to spin a sensational story. Claiming the Abram's turbine only runs on jet fuel is partially correct - if the fuel tanks are filled with jet fuel, then it can only run on jet fuel - so they are correct in that manner.
These are most likely the same people who claim a "new device" installed on a semi-auto pistol transforms it into a "machine gun" that can shoot 1,200 rounds a minute. In theory, a modified SA pistol *might* be capable of that *if* it were belt-fed and the barrel didn't cook after about 30 seconds at that RoF.
But it sounds sensational, so facts be damned.
These are most likely the same people who claim a "new device" installed on a semi-auto pistol transforms it into a "machine gun" that can shoot 1,200 rounds a minute. In theory, a modified SA pistol *might* be capable of that *if* it were belt-fed and the barrel didn't cook after about 30 seconds at that RoF.
But it sounds sensational, so facts be damned.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
I'm unsure about its versatility re: fuel.
I've noticed how quickly the UK move has fallen off the radar, and that's a shame, because it seems to me that their decision may have been what broke the armor logjam and spurred US and Germany to step up. Kudos to them for spurring these decisions, if that's what actually happened.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Right, that's how it reads to me. There's also a drive, I think, to find a devil in the details even when there really isn't one.
Admiral Beez
Major
Me too. But the wheels are turning.
Britain wants Challenger tanks in Ukraine by end of March - minister
Britain hopes the Challenger 2 tanks it is supplying to Ukraine will arrive in the country at the end of March, defence department minister Alex Chalk said on Thursday.
It's the fleet of Challenger 1 tanks that seem to be conveniently available that I'd like to see in Ukraine asap. They use the same ammunition as the Challenger 2, so could work as one.
Britain is sending the Ukrainians the wrong tanks
Jordan has recently retired its fleet of around 400 British Challenger 1 tanks, enough to supply Ukraine with the entire fleet it needs
www.telegraph.co.uk
The Spanish Leo2 offered are said to be those in storage which are in bad condition, basically requiring a full rebuild. I assume they were used for spare parts to keep the others running.
Regarding M1 gas turbine - how does the power output and fuel use change if its run on Diesel ?
Regarding M1 gas turbine - how does the power output and fuel use change if its run on Diesel ?
I hope Canada sends some.
Opinion: Canada’s unused Leopard 2 tanks could make a difference in Ukraine
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has been requesting the tanks from allies for monthswww.theglobeandmail.com
This reminded me of this vid from March 2022.
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Admiral... Your wish is their command
Canada sending Ukraine 4 Leopard tanks in 'game changer' move with allies
National Defence Minister Anita Anand made the commitment on Thursday, ending the debate over whether Canada would ship over battle tanks from its military stockpile to Ukraine.
globalnews.ca
From the article:On those Polish MiG-29s... this is showing up in a number of news sources:
Poland sent several MiG-29 fighters to Ukraine under the guise of spare parts
Most articles attribute the news to Dziennik Gazeta Prawna edition
Poland alleged to have covertly sent MiG-29s to Ukraine last spring
Poland provided Ukraine with aenglish.nv.ua
"The fuselage or wings are also spare parts," sources in the Polish government said."
I wish someone in Washington said: "the metal tube, some fins and wires are just spare parts".
Fuel and explosives can be called "spare chemicals".
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
Just like "ghost guns", assembled from spare parts, so too, "ghost MiGs"?
Glider
Captain
I totally agree with every word you say. The only observation I have is that they simply do not have the size to lead in Europe. Poland does and is. If other countries had half the commitment that Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania have shown, Ukraine would be in a much better place.
I am from the UK and am proud of our forces but we could have done more. Fourteen tanks is clearly a gesture, we have other Challenger II's that are available. They may not have been brought up to the latest spec, but my guess is that Ukraine wouldn't mind.
We don't have F16's but all our Tranche 1 Typhoons are sitting in hangers, not used and with no plans to update them. Again I am pretty sure Ukraine wouldn't mind helping out.
Early Apache helicopters are in the same position. During the Falklands an entire squadron of Wessex Helicopters was formed out of ex hanger queen aircraft and we can only find three Sea Kings? You get the picture
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
What you are describing is the "peace dividend" from the collapse of the USSR.
The western powers thought they could safely stand down their military forces.
They had forgotten the adage "peace through strength".
The western powers thought they could safely stand down their military forces.
They had forgotten the adage "peace through strength".
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Perfect for the Ghost of Kyiv.
I love the smell of JP8 in the morning!
swampyankee
Chief Master Sergeant
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- Jun 25, 2013
Put 'em on a RoRo ship with a lot of other stuff, like spares, training manuals, and 120 mm ammunition.
Putin is trying to bring back the old Russia of autocracy, orthodoxy, and nationality, and the old empire. I wouldn't be surprised if there's movement into Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Armenia in a few years.
Snautzer01
Honourably banned
- 41,305
- Mar 26, 2007
To think that "experts" in think tanks are not aware of that and saying its one more reason why its not practcal to send them.
swampyankee
Chief Master Sergeant
- 3,991
- Jun 25, 2013
Except it's reasonably close to true. When I was at Lycoming, they had qualified the AGT1500 on quite a few flammable liquids. What isn't true is that it needs some "special jet fuel." It was designed to run on the same diesel as the AVDS-1790, and qualified on JP-4, JP-5, Jet-A (when I was at Lycoming, this is what was generally used in the test house), Jet-B, 100/130, 80/87, and auto gas. I don't think they tried ethanol, methanol, or Bunker C.
