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How do Russians pull troops back to Zaporizhzhia?
What do you mean?

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The Russians currently hold territory in the Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, plus Crimea. I am suggesting the Russians withdraw their forces from the Kherson oblast to the Zaporizhzhia oblast, from where they have good overland supply from Russia via the Donetsk oblast.
 
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One thing that interests me greatly is given the Russian use of older equipment and lack of supplies already, what are all
these conscripts going to be issued with and how effective will that make them.

There is equipment in Belarus but how much has been syphoned off as replacement gear already.

The T-90 series of tanks are not available in great numbers and the serviceable number is also questionable. Leopard II
vs mostly T-6 to 7 series ? Ouch.
 
What do you mean?

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The Russians currently hold territory in the Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, plus Crimea. I am suggesting the Russians withdraw their forces from the Kherson oblast to the Zaporizhzhia oblast, from where they have good overland supply from Russia via the Donetsk oblast.


Which is why Melitopol is the key. I
f the Ukrainians take it, the Orcs will have to do a general retreat back to Donetsk and Crimea
 
Visually confirmed Russian losses. 9000 vehicles including ships and aircraft.
Who would have thought during the height of the 1960s Cold War that in the 2020s NATO's arsenal would help to destroy Russia's conventional forces, cause generational and global ruin of Russia's economy and prestige, and expand NATO's borders to within a stone's throw of St. Petersburg, all without a single NATO soldier lost and no nuclear exchange? Putin has given the West the opportunity of a lifetime to knock Russia off the world stage. Now if only the West would get moving on F-16s, ATACMS, etc. needed to finish the job.

Meanwhile, the latest in Russian fantasy thinking….

 
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The new weapon, the Ground Launched Small Diameter Bomb (GLSDB), will allow Ukraine's military to hit targets at twice the distance reachable by the rockets it now fires from the U.S.-supplied High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS). If included as expected in an upcoming weapons-aid package first reported by Reuters, the 151 km (94 mile) GLSDB will put all of Russia's supply lines in the east of the country within reach, as well as part of Russian-occupied Crimea.

This will force Russia to move its supplies even farther from the front lines, making its soldiers more vulnerable and greatly complicating plans for any new offensive.

"This could slow down [a Russian assault] significantly," said Andriy Zagorodnyuk, Ukraine's former defence minister. "Just as HIMARS significantly influenced the course of events, these rockets could influence the course of events even more."

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"We are currently unable to reach Russian military facilities more than 80 kilometres away," said Ukrainian military analyst Oleksandr Musiyenko. "If we can reach them practically all the way to the Russian border, or in occupied Crimea, then of course this will lower the attacking potential of Russian forces."

Crucially, Ukraine will soon be able to reach every point of the occupied overland route to Crimea via Berdiansk and Melitopol. That will force Russia to redirect its supply trucks to the Crimean bridge, which was badly damaged in an attack in October.

"Russia is using Crimea as a big military base from which it sends reinforcements for its troops on the southern front," said Musiyenko. "If we had a 150km (munition), we could reach that and disrupt the logistical connection with Crimea."


 
Who would have thought during the height of the 1960s Cold War that in the 2020s NATO's arsenal would help to destroy Russia's conventional forces, cause generational and global ruin of Russia's economy and prestige, and expand NATO's borders to within a stone's throw of St. Petersburg, all without a single NATO soldier lost and no nuclear exchange? Putin has given the West the opportunity of a lifetime to knock Russia off the world stage. Now if only the West would get moving on F-16s, ATACMS, etc. needed to finish the job.

Meanwhile, the latest in Russian fantasy thinking….

Generally agree with a few corrections:
1 - No nuclear exchange, so far. :silly:
2 - NATO is not causing generational and global ruin of Russia's economy and prestige, nor is a merit of NATO the upcoming NATO expansion, actually NATO was a declining/decadent organization. The cause and merit of all of that is Putin himself. Russians shouldn't blame NATO for their disgraces, they should blame Putin.
 
2 - NATO is not causing generational and global ruin of Russia's economy and prestige, nor is a merit of NATO the upcoming NATO expansion, actually NATO was a declining/decadent organization. The cause and merit of all of that is Putin himself. Russians shouldn't blame NATO for their disgraces, they should blame Putin.
True. The blame lies with Putin. But had NATO not stepped up, first with eight years (2014-2022) of UAF training and military aid, then critical Feb 2022 pre-invasion intel/sigint to Zelenskyy allowing the rout of Russia's Kyiv offensive, followed now with tens of billions in military weapons, systems and ammunition (the US alone provided over $50bn in 2022, equal to 73% of the entire $68bn UK defence budget of 2021) and ongoing reconsat and sigint intelligence, Ukraine would have been rolled over and Putin hailed a hero.

Of course the laurels and credit goes to the Ukrainian men and women fighting this proxy war. They are among the heroes of the 21st century.
 
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Generally agree with a few corrections:
1 - No nuclear exchange, so far. :silly:
2 - NATO is not causing generational and global ruin of Russia's economy and prestige, nor is a merit of NATO the upcoming NATO expansion, actually NATO was a declining/decadent organization. The cause and merit of all of that is Putin himself. Russians shouldn't blame NATO for their disgraces, they should blame Putin.

While I agree with most of this reply, I do believe that Russia's prestige has certainly been crippled for a generation or two, and believe that their economy will likely be paying the price of Putin's Folly long after the shelling has stopped.
 
As I wrote before; Russia has to go hat in hand to Iran and North Korea for munitions. Boeing sends some guys out back to the dumpster and come back with a game changing new weapons system.

Right! "Guys, we've got these spare 250-lbers laying around, and some leftover rocket motors. Let's see what you can do with 'em."


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