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that's my point. Berlin needs to get over the WW2 guilt/shyness and help Ukraine with modern tanks, now.
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No one is asking Germany to fight. I have not read anything in the mainstream English media that suggests through helping to arm Ukraine, Germans are warmongering, jingoistic or forgetting their self-imposed guilt or their nation's past. Where has that been suggested outside of Germany itself or Russia-sympathetic media? Ukraine is on fire, and Germany has the fire extinguisher - do they let their neighbour burn because granddad was an arsonist?So yeah….
No one is asking Germany to fight. I have not read anything in the mainstream English media that suggests through helping to arm Ukraine, Germans are warmongering, jingoistic or forgetting their self-imposed guilt or their nation's past. Where has that been suggested outside of Germany itself or Russia-sympathetic media? Ukraine is on fire, and Germany has the fire extinguisher - do they let their neighbour burn because granddad was an arsonist?
At the end of the day, you get no credit and no blame for whatever your forefathers did. I'm a white, British born Canuck, my people pretty much invented black slavery, conducted genocide on indigenous peoples worldwide and wrought havoc across the globe. Heck, Britain has attacked Russia at least twice since my great grandparents (1854) and grandparents (1919) time. That's got SFA to do with me though.
What's perplexing about Germany is the inconsistency of their positions. On one hand, Germany is the fourth largest provider of weapons and ammunition to Ukraine. They're already committed to the fight. But then they get held up on tanks, until they don't. The US is just as bad, refusing tanks or weapons, only to allow them later on, so we must concede that. Unlike Germany, I sense the US is more about dithering than being concerned about repeating or celebrating history.
To be honest, any action Ukraine takes, whether it be offensive or defensive, is an overall defensive measure to expel the Russians back to their border.
*if* their forces were to cross into Russia proper, then that would be considered an offensive act.
'Do I think Germany needs to do some more? Sure, but at least I get why they are slow to act.' - This is 100% correct. The victorious powers spent decades postwar engaged in exorcising any hint of Prussian-style militarism from the German psyche - out of a fear of a possible Great Unpleasantness Part III. Theses efforts were wildly successful - any hint of anyone that could possibly be construed as adventurism was met with serious navel-gazing and legitimate soul-searching within the BRD. And that's what the rest of the West (and the Russians, of course) wanted - a stable, predictable Germany. It is unreasonable and unfair to expect Germany to discard 80 years of postwar moulding, and jump at the chance to unleash the panzers to roll east .... again. Germany has a...complicated history - particularly with regard to Russia (which, of course Russia exploits endlessly).
Like many others I would like to see Ukraine supplied with all the weapons it needs to eject the invading forces and secure its borders - it is vital to the world order that Russia's aggression fails in a definitive, undeniable fashion. It is frustrating that this is not an instantaneous process - but it is unavoidable
Anyway, that's my 2 cents....
Good info and POV, thanks. With such a defensive posture I wonder if the Bundeswehr, as the backbone of NATO's ground forces in the 1970-80s would have been able to go on the offensive if the invading Red Army broke, or would they have just stopped at the Polish border? The one Axis power doing a big turnaround towards vast military capability is Japan. Meanwhile Italy, the third main Axis power gets a free pass on their aggressions. That doesn't seem fair.In the end, Germany will change, and it needs to. This will speed up.