manta22
Banned
Uhhhh.............
"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (6 Viewers)
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Admiral Beez
Major
I bet one could get a side hull kill using a PTRS-41 rifle. A BMPs 30mm autocannon would tear a Leopard 1 to shreds. Those tanks have no place on the modern battlefield.
And there's no need to send the Leo1. The Leo2s are available and will, I believe be sent asap, likely well before the Leo1s are refurbished and available to be sent.
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Of course, Germany could have. The whole point of rearming Germany with the Bundeswehr was to defend against a Soviet Invasion. At one point Germany had the world's largest air defense network believe it or not. Once the Soviets Invaded, the Bundeswehr could go on the offensive to defeat the Soviet Army. As part of a NATO force, it could fight. They would not have stopped at the Polish border. The war would be fought until it was over, and in that event, Germany would fight.
However, let's be honest. Any invasion by the Soviet Union into Germany during the Cold War would have resulted in a nuclear holocaust. That is why the Cold War never went hot.
Italy is given a pass because they switched sides and largely took out their own government. Japan largely got off the hook as well, just like Italy did. I don't agree with this. Japanese aggression and atrocities were just as bad as those of the Nazis. Japan should have been forced to do a fully unconditional surrender and the government and emperor should have been punished as well, just as the Nazis were. Now having said that, I understand why the emperor was let off the hook. The Japanese people never would have accepted defeat if their emperor and government were not left in place.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Japan has been primarily passive since the end of WWII (with the exception of various Godzilla encounters), but China's recent aggressive posturing in the region has caused Japan to rethink their military's position.
None of their aims are offensive, but aimed more towards a reinforced defense force.
In other words, if China keeps fooling around with Japan, they run the risk of being on the receiving end of "f**k around and find out".
None of their aims are offensive, but aimed more towards a reinforced defense force.
In other words, if China keeps fooling around with Japan, they run the risk of being on the receiving end of "f**k around and find out".
buffnut453
Captain
Flower Power is back!
www.themoscowtimes.com
‘I Couldn’t Stay Silent’: Anti-War ‘Flower Protests’ Spread to 60 Cities Across Russia - The Moscow Times
Russians continue to memorialize the dozens of Ukrainians killed in last month’s Russian missile strike on the city of Dnipro — one of the deadliest single incidents of Moscow’s invasion — in what has evolved into a new nationwide form of anti-war protest. Makeshift displays of flowers, stuffed...
Oh no, they say, he's got to go
Go go Godzilla, yeah
Oh no, there goes Tokyo
Go go Godzilla, yeah
- Blue Oyster Cult
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Did you know that BOC released that song in February 1978?
45 years ago...
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
Still rocks.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
That means your mind is still sharp. Unless you can remember that, but can't remember where your reading glasses are. (Hint: Check on top of your head.)
As I said some days or weeks ago the Leo 1s could be used for training to adjust to western tank setup, as mobile artillery or for attacks from ambush positions.
Later versions had improved armor on the turret but not much was done on the hull.
AFAIR the Leo 1 design was speed over armor - fire some rounds from a well hidden position then quickly move to new position, it was not designed for combat in widely open terrain. Designers had more defensive ops in mind than offensive ops as they expected the warsaw pact states rolling over/through germany with thousands of tanks.
Later versions had improved armor on the turret but not much was done on the hull.
AFAIR the Leo 1 design was speed over armor - fire some rounds from a well hidden position then quickly move to new position, it was not designed for combat in widely open terrain. Designers had more defensive ops in mind than offensive ops as they expected the warsaw pact states rolling over/through germany with thousands of tanks.
Admiral Beez
Major
That does support the motivations behind the Jagdpanzer-like Kanonenjagdpanzer and Stridsvagn 103. I think if tarted up either would be as useful as the Leo1, especially the latter with its 105mm gun. And the S-tank only needs two crew.
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manta22
Banned
Yes, the mission of our Corporal Type IIB artillery battalion was guarding the Fulda Gap. Any armor coming through there would have been struck by our nuclear warheads. After firing our Basic Load of guided Missiles, we would become infantrymen.
Admiral Beez
Major
Which is why Russia's invasion of Ukraine presents the West with an otherwise impossible opportunity to aid in the destruction of Russia's conventional forces, all without the nuclear winter.
I was a dependent at the time, but only lived about 200 clicks from the Fulda Gap. My dad's unit was assigned to the gap if the balloon had gone. I winessed many a Reforger there. Good times. I actually miss it.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
I loved air raid warnings when I was in public school. Duck and cover was always preferred to actually learning anything.
Admiral Beez
Major
It's a little different for the Ukranian school kids. When that air raid warning goes off there's a good chance your or your mates' home or school will be blown up.
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Multinational sanctions on importing or paying for Russian petroleum products aim to limit Moscow's revenue, and therefore its ability to fund its nearly year-old war in Ukraine.
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The Strv 103 had a 3 man crew
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