AND IN THIS CORNER: The Barrett M468......

[P38 Pilot]

You are correct, no overflying France. As a matter of fact, no emergency landings either. A couple of guys made an emergency landing in Spain as the French wouldn't allow it. The F-111 that did not make it back, with Paul Lawrence and Fernando Ribas-Dominici were NOT shot down as some have reported. I personally knew the guy who led the raid, I flew with him for a check ride once and he saw what happened. As far as I know, he still wants his name confidential and I will honor that. He saw them turn to avoid a SAM and their wingtip hit a wavetop in the Gulf of Sitre. He saw them cartwheel across the top of the water as the plane broke up and exploded.

I remember my dad telling me about that Operartion! He said,
"The damn French wouldn't even let our Air Force fly over. We had to go around the whole damn country!

 

[evangilder]

That we did. Somehow the French embassy got some damage from a missile that struck nearby. I wonder how that happened...

 

[plan_D]

Thanks for the clarification, Eric. It seems I better watch my sources when I read more about the operation. If I have a lot of questions I'll start a new thread.

 

[evangilder]

Sounds good to me. I will contribute as much as I can remember, if it doesn't get into anything classified.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Interesting info. I knew about the operation but never talked to anyone who had anything to do with it.

 

[P38 Pilot]

French. Even after we liberated them twice from Germany in WWI and WWII, they still dont give us respect or gratitude.

 

[102first_hussars]

Well first off the French were never fully invaded in WW1 and they fought to theyre dying breath in that one, during WW2 Im not sure it could be doctored with advanced digital technology, but Im pretty sure that the film footage showed All of Paris shaving theyre armpits for us,

anyway after all the years of stereotypes and being branded a bunch of cowards, they made Dioxine look like a nice treat.

 

[Blackwatch]

The French didn't surrender, their government did to prevent the destruction of towns and villages like what happened at the start of the First World War....there was massive killings and rapes by the German Army against French civilians....

 

[plan_D]

Yeah ...the French didn't surrender, they just signed an armistice on June 22nd 1940 ...that's all.

They fought, they lost, game over.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

French. Even after we liberated them twice from Germany in WWI and WWII, they still dont give us respect or gratitude.

As was stated The French did not surrendure in WW1 infact they were fighting on for 3 years before the US even entered the war and the US did not really save France in WW1.

 

[P38 Pilot]

Yeah, well i still think they treat us unfair. They could be a little bit more thankful instead of a bunch of cocky asses who like sticky their noses up in the air walking around saying, "Screw zie Americans! Viva le France!

 

[102first_hussars]

In the words of an accomplished comedian

"what you dont like me cuz I french? fuck you American's, Oh you dont like me because I smoke a cigarette like a woman?fuck you American's, what you dont it when I give a baby a puff of my cigarette? Fuck You Americans, Fuck You all, just a second, Whats this? The Germans are coming!!!!!!!! Oh Heeeellllllloooooo Americans!!!!!! welcome to France, here have some wine"

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Yeah, well i still think they treat us unfair. They could be a little bit more thankful instead of a bunch of cocky asses who like sticky their noses up in the air walking around saying, "Screw zie Americans! Viva le France!

Life is not fair, get used to it!

 

[P38 Pilot]

"what you dont like me cuz I french? fu*k you American's, Oh you dont like me because I smoke a cigarette like a woman?fu*k you American's, what you dont it when I give a baby a puff of my cigarette? fu*k You Americans, fu*k You all, just a second, Whats this? The Germans are coming!!!!!!!! Oh Heeeellllllloooooo Americans!!!!!! welcome to France, here have some wine"

That sounds just like a damn Frenchy! My grandpa had a freind who fought in North Africa to Italy to D-Day and beyond. When they arrived in N.Africa, they attacked a fortifcation that they thought the Germans were guarding. Turns out it was the Vichy French! Just as they started moving in, they shot one of their guys. They opened fire and in 5 seconds, the French raised up their arms and said, "Viva le France!" Bastards....

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

The Vichy French were on the side of the Germans, that is why they fought against your grandfathers friend. They did so until they were turned by the Free French.

 

[marconi]

I've read somewhere, that XM-8 might be fitted to that 6.8mm cartridge in future.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Would not surprise me since the gun is already so adaptable. It also would not surprise me if the XM-8 gets canceled for this project.

 

[Nonskimmer]

Would not surprise me since the gun is already so adaptable.

What's this? An Army member calling a rifle a gun?
Drop and give me 100!



I wouldn't be too surprised either if the M468 did in fact beat out the XM-8, since it's based directly on an existing rifle that's much simpler.
Hmmm, I guess we'll see, eh?

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Excuse me I made a mistake.

This is my rifle and this is my gun. This one is for shooting and this one is for fun!

I agree with you NS.

 

[evangilder]

Good catch NS. Geez, give the guy a promotion and he gets sloppy!