Lightning Guy
Master Sergeant
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That may well be, but the Spit could fly rings around the Hurricane.
Best Dogfighter Poll Revisited...
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Maestro
Master Sergeant
Ohhhh yes, it could.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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aspecailly the Mk.I.............
Adolf Galland
Airman 1st Class
"With over 15,000 Hurricanes built, the aircraft served on virtually every front; even remaining in front-line service as a ground-attack aircraft well after production ended. During the Battle of Britain, the Hurricane downed more Luftwaffe aircraft than any other aircraft type, accruing over 1,500 confirmed victories.
Despite its record, the Hurricane is slow, under-powered, maneuvers poorly, and lacks acceleration. The early Bf109s and Bf110s had little problem contending with the Hurricane. During the Battle of Britain, the Hurricane's main advantage came from fighting over friendly territory against opponents operating at the very edge of their combat range. On the average, though, the Hurricane was outclassed by most of its air-to-air opponents.
The Hurricane is a relatively stable aircraft and generally less difficult to fly than the Spitfire. The Hurricane reaches maximum power between 16,000 to 18,000 feet, but performance falls off sharply above 18,000 feet. Typically, the Hurricane should engage inbound bombers while Spitfires engage the escorting Bf109s."
Despite its record, the Hurricane is slow, under-powered, maneuvers poorly, and lacks acceleration. The early Bf109s and Bf110s had little problem contending with the Hurricane. During the Battle of Britain, the Hurricane's main advantage came from fighting over friendly territory against opponents operating at the very edge of their combat range. On the average, though, the Hurricane was outclassed by most of its air-to-air opponents.
The Hurricane is a relatively stable aircraft and generally less difficult to fly than the Spitfire. The Hurricane reaches maximum power between 16,000 to 18,000 feet, but performance falls off sharply above 18,000 feet. Typically, the Hurricane should engage inbound bombers while Spitfires engage the escorting Bf109s."
Adolf Galland
Airman 1st Class
Notes: Once the aircraft caught fire, it was quickly engulfed in flames. Many pilots suffered the effects of 'Hurricane burns'. The Hurricane is only capable of being flown in a clean configuration.
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lesofprimus
Brigadier General
The 110???? U referring to the Bf-110???
GermansRGeniuses
Tech Sergeant
The Bf-110 isn't a dogfighter!
It's a heavy interceptor, and a pig in a turning battle...
It's a heavy interceptor, and a pig in a turning battle...
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lesofprimus
Brigadier General
Hence why i was asking...... Didnt make any sense to me either....
Unless.......
Unless.......
GermansRGeniuses
Tech Sergeant
Hmm, didn't see your post, we must have been posting at the same time, but you got there first...
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lesofprimus
Brigadier General
I beat ya by 2 minutes HAHA!!!!!
according to some sources I've seen the Hurricane was the most successful Allied fighter in WW2 for air victories (though I myself think that might be going a little to far)Adolf Galland said:
What a load of nonsense.
As the war progressed other fighters did out pace the Hurricane in performance, but at the start it was a very good aircraft..... as for 'maneuvers poorly'.... I'm sorry but whoever wrote that doesn't have a clue
While the Bf 109 was better than the Hurricane in the BOB, it wasn't that better.
As for the Bf 110 having little problem with the Hurricane....LOL
In the BOB the Bf 110 had to be escorted by the Bf 109 to protect it from the Hurricane
Seeing that the Hurricane Squadrons fought the Luftwaffe raids as soon as they crossed the Channel, thats nonsense.
No, from 39-41 the only axis aircraft that outclassed it, was the Bf 109.
Both aircraft are noted for being easy to fly.
GermansRGeniuses
Tech Sergeant
Someone got TOLD!!!
Adolf Galland
Airman 1st Class
That means that the Hurricane can only be flown without any external weapon in BoB.
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lesofprimus
Brigadier General
External weapons on a Hurricane?? What does that have to do with ur post???
Where did the external weaps come from???
It sounds like u are talking about the plane either being in flames, or pieces were missing....
Where did the external weaps come from???
Adolf Galland
Airman 1st Class
and about the spit...
"The Spitfire was conceived about the time that the importance of speed and climb rate was being discovered. Subsequently, the early Spitfires were rather slow with poor climb rates, but (being very light weight) possessed excellent turn performance."
"The Spitfire was conceived about the time that the importance of speed and climb rate was being discovered. Subsequently, the early Spitfires were rather slow with poor climb rates, but (being very light weight) possessed excellent turn performance."
Adolf Galland
Airman 1st Class
The Spitfire Ia and the early Bf109 are well-matched, with the 109 being slightly faster in level flight and accelerating quicker in a dive. At slow speeds, however, the Spitfire is much more maneuverable and rolls faster than the 109. The Spitfire Ia suffers at high altitude, however, with the Bf109E clearly superior above 20,000 feet. The Spitfire Ia is under armed; its light punch can't guarantee lethality against targets with self-sealing fuel tanks (such as the He111 bomber). Further, the Spitfire Ia's carburated engine will cut out under negative G, something the fuel-injected Bf109 doesn't have to worry about. The Spitfire Ia must watch out for high-speed bandits diving from above, and generally needs to sucker the opponent into a low-speed turning fight.
Adolf Galland
Airman 1st Class
Turn performance is good, but being slower meant that the enemy could generally dictate the terms of the fight, disengaging at will. Subsequently, later Spitfires added emphasis on speed. The Spitfire IX is generally 20% faster at all altitudes, accelerates better, and climbs faster than earlier variants. It can still dominate the low-speed turning fight against a 109, but also has the option of diving away and escaping a battle. Lastly, the Spitfire IX packs more punch, carrying two 20mm cannons and four .303cal machine guns.
Faster German planes, like the Fw190, again called for a faster Spitfire. The Spitfire XIV, weighing some 8,400 pounds compared to the Spitfire Ia's 5,700, is substantially faster than the IX, performing better at all altitudes. The XIV can meet any Luftwaffe fighter on equal terms with the exception of the significantly-faster Me262 jet."
Is the site wrong about the Spitfire?
Faster German planes, like the Fw190, again called for a faster Spitfire. The Spitfire XIV, weighing some 8,400 pounds compared to the Spitfire Ia's 5,700, is substantially faster than the IX, performing better at all altitudes. The XIV can meet any Luftwaffe fighter on equal terms with the exception of the significantly-faster Me262 jet."
Is the site wrong about the Spitfire?
