Best/Favourate Tank in the west

[lesofprimus]

This is kinda silly.... Adler, Gnomey, MacArtur and Soren, please read and go through his links and verify or discount them....

Jackson, ur little snyde comments like:

I notice none of you 'fly boys' are going over the the tankers forum to straighten them out.

But hey this is an aircraft forum, so I don't expect anyone here is as familiar enough with the subject to really carry any weight.

Those kinda comments are not needed or required.... Insulting people here for no other reason than to "prove" ur knowledge is "superior" will get u nowhere...

That being said, things like the following:

Your head is so far up your arse about this it isn't even worth discussing any more.

Oh Jackson you poor little think, did I hurt your feelings by not falling for your little scam.

Those are also not needed.... Jackson has presented alot of info concerning the subject.... Dont discount it until u read it first... Argue with facts....

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I have allready told everyone including Soren and Jackson to quit with there insulting comments. I seem to be ignored by them, which is not a good thing for them....

 

[Jackson]

would a rose smell any sweeter?

OK two mods.. I will drop this subject, Period..

I will not post to this thread..

Under any circumstances..



fa'r enuf


thank you for your consideration

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

You see that is just childish...

 

[lesofprimus]

Yes it was, and Im the one trying to back up Jackson on this, cause of the amount of info that he's produced for the naysayers to discount...

Just stop with the bullsh!t replies....

 

[Jackson]

Seriously gentlemen..

I was not thinking of doing anything but ending this discussion..

I have alread recieved a demrit and now your intervention..

I do not see this as productive..

I came here to learn more about aircraft, not to discuss my favorite tank..

As you say, I have posted enough links..

again, thank you for your consideration..


regards

 

[lesofprimus]

Dude, dont put urself on invisible, thats just plain chickensh!t.... Im not sure why u recieved a warning in the first place...

 

[Jackson]

Best/Favourate Tank in... 03-09-2007 09:17 AM Never 5 Insulting members of this forum. DerAdlerIstGelandet


I always go "stealth"..

But if you suggest otherwise, I will take it heart.

Best Regards..

Jackson

 

[Gnomey]

Subject is dropped from me anyway.

 

[Soren]

Ok I've made one snyde remark at him, but take a look at Jackson's attitude from the beginning ! I have been calm throughout this "debate" (If you can call it that), however because I knew Jackson was wrong he took it personal and started acting rude.

PS: I've read trough all of Jackson's links and like I've said from the beginning the M-36 is an M-36, not an M4 Sherman. The funny part however is that Jackson keeps reinforcing this by quoting all of links designating it M-36B1.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Allright Soren just let it go. If you guys want to discuss this that is fine but lets keep it civil.

 

[Soren]

Was I being uncivil ?

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I am meaning in general Soren. You know what I mean.

Now lets get this back on topic please.

 

[Soren]

I guess I know what you mean Adler, and no there'll be no'more of that.

Ok, back on track with the thread:

Well its obviously the Tiger Ausf.E, it was nearly indistructable in the African campaign.

 

[Gnomey]

Yes it was and in second I would say is probably the Panzer IVF2 Special with the Long Barrelled 75mm gun. Not as much armour as the Tiger but would of still be able to knock out allied tanks before they could knock it out.

 

[Civettone]

Christian Ankerstjerne has already been mentioned...
If he were here, he would tell you that there never was a Pz IVF2...



Kris

 

[Soren]

Err, why would he say that ?

 

[Jackson]

well

one thing about the IV

It was in production on 1 Sept 1939 and May 8, 1945


I cannot think of anything else that can lay that claim

It makes it one of my favorites

 

[Jackson]

AFV I mean

 

[Civettone]

Err, why would he say that ?

Well, the answer can be found on his website: panzerworld.net but I have copied it for your convenience.
The Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf.F2 and Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf.G were not seperate vehicles, but merely different designations for the same vehicle. The Ausf.F2 designation appeared in two manuals before the designation was changed to Ausf.G, and thus the designation made it into post-war literature as being a seperate vehicle.
So IVF2 seems to have been a temporary and unofficial designation.

Other fictitious names:
Hetzer
Brummbär
Königstiger (or Kingstiger)
Panzer IV/70 Zwischenlösung
Saukopfblende
These were all allied names/words which were never officially used by the Germans. Whenever you even mention these words, you'll get a reaction by Christian. You can set your clock on that!

Kris