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[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Alder, chill m8.

Milo is getting a lashing for this? Are his words so bad?

Did you smack Kurfürst down for being such a swell guy toward me (and to Steve Hinton)?

[My apologies in advance if something else is wrong, you said you were not in a good mood, I hope it is nothing serious]

Alright Ching, you stay out of this. Are you a moderator? Then leave the moderating to the moderators. You got that!

We deal with Kurfurst when things get out of hand, he did not get out of hand yet. I also dont need to justify myself to you. I dont have anything against you and you have been a fine member here, dont change that.

 

[Reluctant Poster]

Only the P-38 was totally powered by Allisons. Only a handful of the P-51 family used Allisons and the P40 family was split between Allison and Merlin.

The vast majority of P-40's used Allisons. Only about 2200 Merlin powered out of 13143 total.

 

[Reluctant Poster]

You are mostly correct about the F4F-3. The British took delivery of the first Martlet on July 27, 1940. By Oct. 40 the FAA had 81 Martlets. They could not have had any impact on the BOB. However the US Navy was using the first production F4F by April, 1940.

The USN may have had the first one in April, but production was a trickle, they only had about 20 by the end of 1940.

 

[Reluctant Poster]

Are you talking about the Bf-109 or the P-51 because my arguement is about the P-51. Were our posts going right past each other.

Obviously not very clear on my part. The point is the 109 was did the job as an interceptor, but was less sucessful in the escort role.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

i don't think that's ever been in doubt because of her range..........

 

[renrich]

Out of 13143 P40s built, 2013 had the Merlin engine, the Fs and Ls.

 

[Chingachgook]

This is just a public forum Adler, not the military. Put your guns away.
Nope I am not a moderator, but I am a witness to what you are doing.
I know that you are normally a good guy, nothing I could say here can change that, but you are in a piss poor mood, and worse yet you have a conflict of interest - you are a participant in the forum as well as the moderator.
You are using your position as moderator to call milo names etc because of something he said to YOU. Not good PR to the new guy, and not a good example to the rest of us (yep, I am a hypocrite, I know I wouldn't do any better, but then I am not the moderator).
Despite your "high position" here, you are not justified in principle, and you owe him an apology. milo seems to have had some things to offer, you chased him away - out of your own pride. Don't be using power for yourself, if you want to use power - use it on behalf of someone else.

I probably signed some sacred agreement saying that I would never argue with a mod, so now I will be kicked out. I am sorry that I put you in that position.

Alright Ching, you stay out of this. Are you a moderator? Then leave the moderating to the moderators. You got that!

We deal with Kurfurst when things get out of hand, he did not get out of hand yet. I also don't need to justify myself to you. I don't have anything against you and you have been a fine member here, don't change that.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Obviously not very clear on my part. The point is the 109 was did the job as an interceptor, but was less sucessful in the escort role.

We deffinatly were talking past each other here. I was not referring to the 109 as an escort fighter. It was a lousy escort fighter with its minimal range.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

This is just a public forum Adler, not the military. Put your guns away.
Nope I am not a moderator, but I am a witness to what you are doing.
I know that you are normally a good guy, nothing I could say here can change that, but you are in a piss poor mood, and worse yet you have a conflict of interest - you are a participant in the forum as well as the moderator.
You are using your position as moderator to call milo names etc because of something he said to YOU. Not good PR to the new guy, and not a good example to the rest of us (yep, I am a hypocrite, I know I wouldn't do any better, but then I am not the moderator).
Despite your "high position" here, you are not justified in principle, and you owe him an apology. milo seems to have had some things to offer, you chased him away - out of your own pride. Don't be using power for yourself, if you want to use power - use it on behalf of someone else.

I probably signed some sacred agreement saying that I would never argue with a mod, so now I will be kicked out. I am sorry that I put you in that position.

No Ching there is no sacred agreement. When someone insults me however trivial it is, I will take it back at them. Hopefully they will knock it off.

He apologizes to me, I drop it. I dont hold grudges against anyone. He had the attitude and insults, I returned in kind the ball is in his court.

Now having said that, you are not a moderator here, let it go now...

 

[Thumper]

I cant believe you guys havent named the ZERO...geez...it could oufly any of those ...outrange any of those...and certainly wasnt defeated until better tactics were created

seems to me theres a lil bias going on

 

[lesofprimus]

Zeros' been talked about on here for many years, and also in this thread.... The Zero was outclassed very early on, and never recovered... Not the best all time, but in the beginning years it was...

Ching, u need to mind ur own biz.... I would have done the same thing with his insult... U dont come on here and start sh!t with a Mod, and that sh!t u just pulled out ur ass is gonna get ur ass in a sling...

you are a participant in the forum as well as the moderator.
You are using your position as moderator to call milo names etc because of something he said to YOU. Not good PR to the new guy, and not a good example to the rest of us

If we need the advice of some schwantz with 200 posts, I'll open up my toilet lid and ask the turd I dropped in there his/her advice...

Both will matter about the same...

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I cant believe you guys havent named the ZERO...geez...it could oufly any of those ...outrange any of those...and certainly wasnt defeated until better tactics were created

seems to me theres a lil bias going on

The Zero is a myth. It was only superior at low speeds. At high speeds it stick was hard and it lots its great maneuverabilty. Yeah it had great range, but to get that range it lacked in armament and armour protection for its crew, plus it did not self sealing tanks.

It is a myth and that is been proven several times on this forum.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I tried to tell you Ching, now you got Les involved and I cant do nothing for you.

 

[Chingachgook]

Adler,

I feared that it was only a matter of time before les would show up.

I admit it now, I am outgunned.

There is no way to match les's subtle toilet imagery. (ching cowers in the corner).

I am ill prepared to do battle at his level because it is not often that I interact with his class of people.

Seems that les feels that I am les than what he flushes. I guess this is his way of moderating?

I warn you though, I will be back when I have 20k posts. Quantity is everything at ww2aircraft.net...

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Ching you are outgunned against moderator when you go up against them...

 

[Udet]

Chin: welcome to the forum.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

It aint that bad Udet.

 

[Udet]

Adler, i know. By welcoming Chinggy i was referring to the fact he has know learned how this forum functions (many might not like it and are free to leave at their convenience, many others do like it and have learned how to swim in stormy seas). 8)

 

[SpitfireKing]

My, sharp teeth. Big bite and bark.
Yeah, the forums get crazy sometime. Heck, I got chewed out by Les awhile back. Not fun....But yeah, the forums are fun, I'm happy I got back, missed the perries and counter blows.Ting ting clang, all that crazy shite.

 

[SpitfireKing]

Out of 13143 P40s built, 2013 had the Merlin engine, the Fs and Ls.

Many fighters used the rolls-royce merlin engine. The Mustang, eventually the Spitfire. Quite a few. Considering it was a very good engine, makes sense.