Best Fighter

[cheddar cheese]

too bad just put short posts like me and the lanc do, if it helps

 

[Erich]

a little something translated from the Deutsch by friend and web-master Neil Page off our web-site:

For the Ta 152H

http://members.aol.com/falkeeins/Sturmgruppen/reschkeJG301.html

 

[Lightning Guy]

I've never seen a G-10 listed that high on speed. What was powering it?

 

[Erich]

insert foot in mouth................

have had time this early evening to check through the German documentation, the speed for the G-6/AS and G-10's were around 430mph. quite a difference I would say. the G-10 also had the MW 50 boost and AS type engine and the a/c at times were buffed out with the rivets puttied over. also to increase speed of the Moskito-jagd the oil was specially thinned during the day as the pilots slept. the machines were just up for a short period of time flying higher than the Mossie bombers with hope of catching them by diving and pulling up behind the last moment.......

 

[plan_D]

The Fw-190A-8/R8 needed its own escort, didn't it? I read that the armament was so high, and the battle weight was so high the plane didn't have a chance in air to air combat until it got rid of its load.
And with that, the Fw-190 (Of any variant) looks better than the 109, the 109 has character but the 190 is just a better looking plane. C.C, you're the minority, again.

 

[Erich]

Plan the Heavy Sturm fighter was just plain too heavy with an extra weight of over 500 pounds. Not so much the armament as the protective armor around the cockpit, canopy, fuel tank, ammo storage. It was quite unwiedly in flight and the pilots were given the express directive not to engage enemy fighters if at all possilbe. this then was where the lighter and more nimble Bf 109G's were to come into play...........

E ~

 

[plan_D]

Or just normal Fw-190A.

 

[Erich]

yes correct, the Fw 190A-8 without the cumbersome extra's could deal effectively with the P-51 as well as take on 4 engine craft..........

E ~

 

[cheddar cheese]

im always in the minority cos im a very different person and dont like to be with the crowd, also i injured my hand today so my typing wont be very good

 

[plan_D]

I'm never normally in with the 'in' crowd, just a crowd of strange people.
I won't ask you how you injured your hand, even though it will leave you open for some prime abuse.

 

[Lightning Guy]

Wasn't the Bf-109G starting to run into some of the same problems, too much weight and too much engine power for its size? I've heard that most Luftwaffe pilots considered the F and early G models to have the best blend of performance and handling.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

i injured my hand today so my typing wont be very good

so what's new??

 

[Erich]

Lg, yes the F is considered overall exceptional especially for the fight in Afrika. One of the considerations though with the G series was more power..........the AS engines and MW boost come into it's own and the idea of trying to get the 109 to higher altitudes. when I./JG 3 for example were to provide high cover for attacking German craft on the US bombers the I./JG 3 was equipped with the new G-6/AS version and granted it could get up to 30,000 feet. But as ace Horst Petzschelr said we always were looking down for the P-51's and d*** it all ! they were always 2,000 feet above us and we were sitting ducks. this was in May 44 before Normandie.

Horst is a very likeable guy with a ton of stories to share. he thinks he is quite the ladies man...............

 

[cheddar cheese]

that was so predictable lanc

 

[Erich]

something for you guyz............a Bf 109G-6/AS from 4./NJG 11 and in this case with the FuG 217 aerials, an RAF bomber chaser

 

[cheddar cheese]

cool 8)

 

[Erich]

it will be in our book along with other 'look a likes'.............

E ~

 

[Lightning Guy]

I don't think I had ever seen radar aerials on a 109. Very nice pic Erich.

 

[Erich]

how about FuG 217 on an Fw 190A ? have seen something like this before ?

 

[Erich]

ok guys here we are. Fw 190A-6 black 8 of 5./JG 300 flying night missions against RAF heavy bombers. Note Neptun FuG 217 aerials.....