Messy1
Master Sergeant
Appreciate the info guys. Thanks for looking it up. I have to agree with you as far as the numbers go, It looks hard to beat the coached you listed.
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Interesting point about NFL coaches and their carreers as NFL players. Only around 30 % of all active NFL coaches played any in the NFL. If you limit them to position coaches(excluding strength coaches and such) a good deal less than 30 % played NFL football. Somewhat answers the question about why there are not more black head coaches in the NFL since the majority of the players are black. Paul Brown coached 25 seasons, won 84.9% of his games, won 75% of his playoff games and won seven championships. George Halas coached 40 seasons, won 69.8% of his games and won one championship.
One running back seems to be left off the list who ought to be considered. I voted for Jim Brown and am well disposed towards Eric Dickerson but during his short career with the Denver Broncos and during their two Super Bowl wins, Terrell Davis was about as good as any. He was a very effective back who had power, speed, a little wiggle and at his best, he was almost unstoppable. Only lasted about 5 years before a knee injury got him. The Broncos, Elway or not, would not have even been in the Super Bowl, let alone win it without Davis.
How about great QBs? Unitas, Otto Graham, Elway, Bradshaw, Staubach, and so on.
I honestly believe if Steve Young had been the starter for a few more years, he would be considered the greatest off all time. If the short time he was the starter, I think broke most of Montana's records, and also threw more TD passes to Rice. He only needed one or two additional Super Bowl wins to be called the greatest, but IMO he was one and would deserve a spot on a greatest list.
The top is Montana, after him comes in a debatable order:
Young
Unitas
Elway
Staubach
Favre
Starr
Manning
Brady
Marino
And probably a few more can be added to the list. I do not believe that Aikman belongs on the list. He was not a great QB, he just had a good team player and had a great supporting cast.
Jim Kelly would also be in that mix 0-4 in Superbowl but he got there also OJ was a pretty fair ball player although he put new meaning for a slashing runI would add Marino as one of the greatest never to win a championship, but I gotta disagree with you on Aikman. Most of the QBs you mention had great supporting casts. I've never seen a QB win without talent around him. Three NFL Championships makes Aikman elite.
And you have to put Bradshaw in there with four.
TO
Jim Kelly would also be in that mix 0-4 in Superbowl but he got there also OJ was a pretty fair ball player although he put new meaning for a slashing run
I would add Marino as one of the greatest never to win a championship, but I gotta disagree with you on Aikman. Most of the QBs you mention had great supporting casts. I've never seen a QB win without talent around him. Three NFL Championships makes Aikman elite.
And you have to put Bradshaw in there with four.
TO
One reason I would rank Johnny U first is that he called all his own plays, unlike most of the rest. I don't put Brady up with the best yet because his career is not over, hopefully, and he is what I call a system QB. Look how the Pats did last year with a QB that did not even start in college. Another QB who ranks with the greatest is Sam Baugh. He played QB, some defense and was the best punter in the league. I forgot Starr but his 5 titles show me a lot. How about the greatest defense of all time? I go with the Steel Curtain.