Comparative Study of B-17 vs B-24
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lesofprimus
Brigadier General
I met a pilot from the 24th last night, a man who flew the -17, -24, -25 and the -47..... He said the B-24 was his favorite craft to fly......
I asked him about the opposistion he faced, and he said that the Sturm Fw's were the worst thing he faced, next to flak.....
Nice fella, but the guy was as deaf as a doorknob tho....
I asked him about the opposistion he faced, and he said that the Sturm Fw's were the worst thing he faced, next to flak.....
Nice fella, but the guy was as deaf as a doorknob tho....
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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SM79Sparviero said:
but what's the point in going if you're not gonna dent the enemy
Erich
the old Sage
Les, the 24th ? squadron or bomb group. something needs and extra letter I think
Again both heavies were needed to pound the Reich, the Luftwaffe day fighter force did not care which it came up against, the German crews knew they had to stop the Bomber pulks with whatever they could muster, lastly with the Me 262's, and also knowing that they were going to get jumped by the Mustang squadrons...
Again both heavies were needed to pound the Reich, the Luftwaffe day fighter force did not care which it came up against, the German crews knew they had to stop the Bomber pulks with whatever they could muster, lastly with the Me 262's, and also knowing that they were going to get jumped by the Mustang squadrons...
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
He didnt say erich... I tried to converse with the fella, but it was at a party and he couldnt hear 90% of what I was asking him....
P38 Pilot
Tech Sergeant
We dont blame you Les. I still think the B-17 was better though with its additional .50 machine guns...
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
Huh? Blame for what?
P38 Pilot
Tech Sergeant
The deaf veteran.
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
Yea Im somewhat deaf, but ur just a complete moron who makes no sense whatsoever, and doesnt realize that u read the computer screen, not listen to it.......
Ill ask again......... Blame for what???
Ill ask again......... Blame for what???
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Erich said:
I think that says it right there.
syscom3
Pacific Historian
In the autumn of 1944, several B24 groups were converted over to the B17. I think the 8th AF knew that they had fewer issues with B17's.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
And there was planning to replace both of them with the B-32 (as mentioned on other thread)
Gemhorse
Senior Airman
Well, the B-24 did sterling work with the Atlantic convoys and Coastal Command, and as mentioned, in the Pacific, as well, which perhaps made it more the adaptable of the two.......
Gemhorse
Gemhorse
Erich
the old Sage
I know the RAF 100th group had B-17's on hand but did they also use B-24's ?
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
I had an old UK publication "Aircraft 69" evidently the year it was released. It had a pretty lengthy article about 100th group and their B-17s, I don't remember anything about B-24s....
Glider
Captain
My understanding was that at their hight they had 20 B17 and 20 B24. This was in addition to 80 Halifax and 160 Mossies of various types.
It seems as if the B24 specialised in electronic jamming equipment, but I am pretty sure other types also carried out such tasks.
It seems as if the B24 specialised in electronic jamming equipment, but I am pretty sure other types also carried out such tasks.
Erich
the old Sage
I do know that the B-17's had anti-jammer as I have a story of one that met it's fate to the rear MG 131 on a Ju 88G-6. the crew in the Fort thought they were getting multiple flak hits..........
the mossies besdies anti-jam were focused on taking out German night fighters strolling above the RAF 4 engines flying one direction to another until finding a bogey
the mossies besdies anti-jam were focused on taking out German night fighters strolling above the RAF 4 engines flying one direction to another until finding a bogey
Dac
Airman 1st Class
One advantage that the B-24 had was higher cruising speed. I think I'd rather be cruising along at 210mph rather than 160mph in a combat zone.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Something I remembered....
My uncle was a B-24 bombardier. He started out training as a flight engineer. He once told me that the B-24 had a bunch of fuel lines and valves located in the bomb-bay that leaked on occasion and sometimes filled the Bomb-bays up with fumes. At one point it was SOP to take off and land with the Bomb-bays cracked open. I don't have a B-24 fuel systems schematic to confirm this but has anyone else heard or read about this? My uncle told me that many B-24s would ignite in the air for no apparent reason!
I mentioned in another post, he was also the only survivor of an 11-man B-24 crash!
My uncle was a B-24 bombardier. He started out training as a flight engineer. He once told me that the B-24 had a bunch of fuel lines and valves located in the bomb-bay that leaked on occasion and sometimes filled the Bomb-bays up with fumes. At one point it was SOP to take off and land with the Bomb-bays cracked open. I don't have a B-24 fuel systems schematic to confirm this but has anyone else heard or read about this? My uncle told me that many B-24s would ignite in the air for no apparent reason!
I mentioned in another post, he was also the only survivor of an 11-man B-24 crash!
Graf's quote-
"To fight against twenty Russians that want to have a bite of one, or also against Spitfires, is a joy. And one doesn't know that life is not certain. But the curve into seventy Fortresses lets all the sins of one's life pass before one's eyes."-Hans Philip, JG1
We always hear about how the armament of these bombers wasn't sufficient to effectively fend off attackers, but I can only imagine how incredibly frightening it would be to go up against...lets see...70 fortresses multiplied by 13 .50 cals... 910 guns. Holy hell.
"To fight against twenty Russians that want to have a bite of one, or also against Spitfires, is a joy. And one doesn't know that life is not certain. But the curve into seventy Fortresses lets all the sins of one's life pass before one's eyes."-Hans Philip, JG1
We always hear about how the armament of these bombers wasn't sufficient to effectively fend off attackers, but I can only imagine how incredibly frightening it would be to go up against...lets see...70 fortresses multiplied by 13 .50 cals... 910 guns. Holy hell.
