Thanks Bill. I can (sort of ) get used to the pain, but the frustration is sometimes hard to cope with. Used to be fitter than a fit thing on a fit day - 30 miles or more, across rough country, with a 120 pound Bergen on my back, no problem - now, I struggle to walk across a room, and trying to get my hands to work - ******* terrible, everything takes four or more attempts, from tying shoe laces to picking up a spoon - bucking follocks !!