**** DONE: GB-58 1/48 Heinkel He219 A-7 - Night Fighters all Eras
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Ralph Haus
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Always the PITA, but I just got to ask. I was trying to find a reference for the proper seat belt anchor locations. Found many model builds but no actual He219 photos. My question now is, does anyone (kit mfg's included) know, or is the location just left up to the builders discretion? To add to the confusion mix, some builds have the radar operators seat with lap only belts, some have the added shoulder belts. To wit:
Anyone want to weigh in on this? Obviously these will be somewhat tucked away, but with the canopy open they will be more visible than many that I have built. Won't loose any sleep over this, just puzzled as why the variations?
Anyone want to weigh in on this? Obviously these will be somewhat tucked away, but with the canopy open they will be more visible than many that I have built. Won't loose any sleep over this, just puzzled as why the variations?
Because nobody knows how it was done actually. Most of the ways of attaching of the seat belts is based on the other late-war German projects.
Here you may find the pic of the seats and belts. It can be noticed that the shoulder belts were attached at the chair back plate for both seats.
The Heinkel HE-219 Uhu
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Additionally here is a shot showing the starboard of the rear station with the belts going behind the seat back seen partially.
the source: the net
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Ralph Haus
Tech Sergeant
Many thanks. Intuitively, that's what I would have expected, behind the seat back. Will look cleaner. no messy anchor attach brackets to create! Just need to try and make a notch to pass them through, or not!Because nobody knows how it was done actually. Most of the ways of attaching of the seat belts is based on other late-war German projects.
Here you may find the pic of the seats and belts. It can be noticed that the shoulder belts were attached at the chair back for both seats.
The Heinkel HE-219 Uhu
Um excelente livro sobre o He-219 fonte mais do que necessária para quem pretende construir o novo kit da Revell ou da Zokeimura.www.spruemaster.com
Additionally here is a shot showing the starboard of the rear station with the belts going behind the seat back seen partially.
View attachment 727443
the source: the net
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Ralph Haus
Tech Sergeant
Trash to treasure. I looked through my kit extra parts stash and found some, I think, good candidates for making the seat belt hardware? The small aircraft is one of many that populate the deck of an air craft carrier I build years ago. The wings are tiny and thin and may be the perfect candidates to cannibalize. Although the fins of the never used bombs are promising material as well. The PE panels looks promising too? Lots to play with. Cant find a suitable switch pattern (radiator) for the rear cockpit starboard wall though.
Crimea_River
Marshal
I like the drape on your revised belts. The Bordfunker would have had shoulder belts given that he sits on an ejection seat.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
That is amazingly nice work. Beautiful detail.
Good work so far!
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Ralph Haus
Tech Sergeant
First pass, probably final. Not sure I have enough bandages and beer to make these 'detail' parts any smaller. Looked so easy when I see others work. Not so much in my case. Anyway, critique away. The belts are adhered with clear canopy adhesive so are easily removed. Colors look acceptable though?
Wow do they look 'clutsy' when zoomed on. But for a distance display shelf display...MEH?
Wow do they look 'clutsy' when zoomed on. But for a distance display shelf display...MEH?
fubar57
General
Beauty
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Ralph Haus
Tech Sergeant
Should have included these 'dry fit' images. Still have the second set of belts to create. Maybe better. Maybe same?
fubar57
General
Nice looking electronics
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Ralph Haus
Tech Sergeant
Thank you. The unit left of the radar scope? Is that a screen? Are those switches? Did not find any ref for these?
Crimea_River
Marshal
Vic Balshaw
Major General
Nicely done Ralph. 
The left pic posted by Andy shows the connection sockets without the radar displayers attached. The left one should be the FuG 212 Lichtenstein C-1 display unit while the right one was for the FuG 220 Lichtenstein SN-2 radar.
with the sockets seen ...
the display units with the anti-glare tubes ...
the FuG 212 displayer without the tube
the FuG 220 one ... also without the tube.
the pic surce: the net.
with the sockets seen ...
the display units with the anti-glare tubes ...
the FuG 212 displayer without the tube
the FuG 220 one ... also without the tube.
the pic surce: the net.
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Ralph Haus
Tech Sergeant
Ahhh! Kind of makes sense now. It is a 'portal' or 'socket' to plug in the second radar unit display, Fug 212, if outfitted. Should I then assume that my unit would not have the rear antenna, as shown in instructions? Great info. Always the expert resource for detail trivia. Thanks...
No on A7, yes on A1?
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Ralph,
I have edited my post and the quotation in your post because of a couple of typos I made due to the late time here.
But you are right. The FuG 212 was used with the early FuG 220 SN-2 airborn radar with pre-production and very early He 219s. When the FuG 220 SN-2c variant appeared, the FuG 212 C-1/C-2 unit was given up. When the FuG 220 SN-2d version was introduced a few late He 219s got the FuG 220 SN-2d additional tail warning unit at the tail. Because your model doesn't have the FuG 212 unit attached in the cockpit ( just the FuG 220 only ) it means that the antannae system for the FuG 212 wasn't installed at the nose. Actually I would suggest following a pic of the particular Uhu to check what antennas should be attached.
And yes on the A1 part. It was the radio set antenna. Regarding the A7 see my note above.
I have edited my post and the quotation in your post because of a couple of typos I made due to the late time here.
But you are right. The FuG 212 was used with the early FuG 220 SN-2 airborn radar with pre-production and very early He 219s. When the FuG 220 SN-2c variant appeared, the FuG 212 C-1/C-2 unit was given up. When the FuG 220 SN-2d version was introduced a few late He 219s got the FuG 220 SN-2d additional tail warning unit at the tail. Because your model doesn't have the FuG 212 unit attached in the cockpit ( just the FuG 220 only ) it means that the antannae system for the FuG 212 wasn't installed at the nose. Actually I would suggest following a pic of the particular Uhu to check what antennas should be attached.
And yes on the A1 part. It was the radio set antenna. Regarding the A7 see my note above.
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