Sergio, I was reading about the colours you've chosen again and again through the whole thread. I probably missed the above post, but ...sorry to say that...it's kind of confusing.In a WWII Japanese aviation group on facebook (face book) some colleagues have mentioned to me that the color would be called akatsuchi-iro, I had never heard of this color before....
Then I'll look for the link to the Japanese page where it appears that the n12 of the ijaaf color list is called that, I will also put the chipsets in the book of ijaaf color regulations where the n12 with that name also appears. Now, since I just got off work at night shift (now it's 7:16 in the morning) I'm going to sleep because at 13 I have to pick up the kids from school...Frienldy cheers!!!Sergio, I was reading about the colours you've chosen again and again through the whole thread. I probably missed the above post, but ...sorry to say that...it's kind of confusing.
Almost 11 years ago you posted the IJAA bomber colours here. The brown colour is there and the translation of the Japanese text is approx. what you wrote in your post #20. But the akatsuchi-iro (iro=colour) is IMHO a bit too far. No wonder you haven't heard it before. Akatsuchi is a manga-hero from the Naruto-universe.
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He has nothing to do with the IJAA but has a brown suit. Maybe this was the only reason for the group on Facebook to call it so. I don't follow the Book of faces and have no account there so I can't double check it.
There is a very similar word akatsuki-iro (dawn colour), but I can't imagine what is the colour of the dawn.
Or maybe I'm completely ..."out of order"?
Will be nice to see the source, thanks!Then I'll look for the link to the Japanese page where it appears that the n12 of the ijaaf color list is called that, I will also put the chipsets in the book of ijaaf color regulations where the n12 with that name also appears. Now, since I just got off work at night shift (now it's 7:16 in the morning) I'm going to sleep because at 13 I have to pick up the kids from school...Frienldy cheers!!!
Will be nice to see the source, thanks!
I'm also searching for those "mysterious" Japanese colours. We often don't know their original names, but the FS approximations only.
P.S. IMHO the colour in the book you mentioned years ago is 茶褐色 - chahaishoku or chakashoku which is a reddish brown.
well, according to this same page that you have given me, it is the N12 red brown, a primer that was given to all the planes that went to the ijanf, in the image I show it to you, although it says that there is no coincidence as I explained before. FS30061 is similar but it is not the same, the tone varies somewhat towards yellow, which, taking into account that the color scale must be reduced, is a color that could be closer to Gunze's H33, which is the color used, which is a reddish brown, but on this page that you have placed some problems appear with the comparisons of the colors for example the fs20061 is not yellow as it indicates for n13... since it is maroon...Hi Sergio,
AFAIK this book is Kari Kikaku 117 - Color identification Standard for Naval air planes –Temporary Specification No.117 Additional Volume. The colour you are (probably) referring to is I 2 (not 12!), one of the "soil"-colours. Or maybe it is not - I can't understand it from your post. I don't know what exactly is # 12 shown in the picture, and where this number comes from but it appears to me more green than brown. Are we talking about the brown colour of your model or about some other tone? I started asking because these Japanese browns are intriguing and I have never seen the name of the paint you mentioned before in any of the Japanese books or additional sources (sites) I have used.
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Anyway, don't waste your time with more theory. Keep working on your beautiful model. Good luck with it!
AFAIK este libro es Kari Kikaku 117 - Norma de identificación de pinturas de aeronaves de la aviación naval Falso Reglamento 117 Particulares El color al que te refieres (probablemente) es el I 2 (¡no el 12!), uno de los colores "tierra". O tal vez no, no lo entiendo por su mensaje. No sé qué es exactamente el número 12 que aparece en la imagen, ni de dónde procede, pero me parece más verde que marrón. ¿Estamos hablando del color marrón de tu modelo o de algún otro tono? Empecé a preguntar porque estos marrones japoneses son intrigantes y nunca he visto el nombre de la pintura que mencionas antes en ninguno de los libros japoneses o fuentes adicionales (sitios) que he utilizado.
Consulta este sitio para obtener más información.
De todos modos, no pierdas el tiempo con más teoría. Sigue trabajando en tu preciosa maqueta. ¡Buena suerte con ella!
discussion???, NO, NO, NO, very very friendly conversation, full of information and good results, it is the conversion of the usual Japanese colors, finding a color that has always been controversial. In a matter of the name, it is the majority that can generate more controversy, but the background that is the most important (as I see it).Good stuff Sergio. Didn't really follow the whole colour discussion but it's looking good.