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thanks fellas

I repainted the white, I redid the edges a bit and now I'm waiting for it to dry to take pictures.
 
In a WWII Japanese aviation group on facebook (face book) some colleagues have mentioned to me that the color would be called akatsuchi-iro, I had never heard of this color before....
Sergio, I was reading about the colours you've chosen again and again through the whole thread. I probably missed the above post, but ...sorry to say that...it's kind of confusing.
Almost 11 years ago you posted the IJAA bomber colours here. The brown colour is there and the translation of the Japanese text is approx. what you wrote in your post #20. But the akatsuchi-iro (iro=colour) is IMHO a bit too far. No wonder you haven't heard it before. Akatsuchi is a manga-hero from the Naruto-universe.

There is a colour, actually group of colours in the IJN (this is the Naval Aviation of Japan) standards called Tsuchi Iro 土色 = soil colour(s).

Aka iro
is red so the combination of the two aka+tsuchi might be red-brown?
There is a very similar word akatsuki-iro (dawn colour), but I can't imagine what is the colour of the dawn.
Or maybe I'm completely ..."out of order"?
Cheers!
 
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Then I'll look for the link to the Japanese page where it appears that the n12 of the ijaaf color list is called that, I will also put the chipsets in the book of ijaaf color regulations where the n12 with that name also appears. Now, since I just got off work at night shift (now it's 7:16 in the morning) I'm going to sleep because at 13 I have to pick up the kids from school...Frienldy cheers!!!
 
Will be nice to see the source, thanks!
I'm also searching for those "mysterious" Japanese colours. We often don't know their original names, but the FS approximations only.
Cheers!
P.S. IMHO the colour in the book you mentioned years ago is 茶褐色 - chahaishoku or chakashoku which is a reddish brown.
 
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no, no, i say this book


i believe say hiyousi , or at least that's what they told me that it's called, bring this list of color chip sets...


Comment in the article that I tell you, (now I get the broken link and that is why I have not posted it, I have sent an email to the owner to see if he has changed the server), that the n12 was similar to the fs 30061 something more yellow than n12.

In this photo you can see the strip of the color in question:


And these photos were given to me from photos of him (according to what he told me) that he took in the jungle.(I have asked permission to post the photos here, so if they were not yours, I would delete them immediately).
 
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no, no, i say this book
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i believe say hiyousi , or at least that's what they told me that it's called, bring this list of color chip sets...
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Hi Sergio,
AFAIK this book is Kari Kikaku 117 - Color identification Standard for Naval air planes –Temporary Specification No.117 Additional Volume. The colour you are (probably) referring to is I 2 (not 12!), one of the "soil"-colours. Or maybe it is not - I can't understand it from your post. I don't know what exactly is # 12 shown in the picture, and where this number comes from but it appears to me more green than brown. Are we talking of the redish-brown colour of your model or about some other tone? I started asking because these Japanese browns are intriguing and I have never seen the name of the paint you mentioned before (akatsuchi) in any of the Japanese books or additional sources (sites) I have used.
Check this site for more information.
Anyway, don't waste your time with more theory. Keep working on your model. Good luck with it!
 
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well, according to this same page that you have given me, it is the N12 red brown, a primer that was given to all the planes that went to the ijanf, in the image I show it to you, although it says that there is no coincidence as I explained before. FS30061 is similar but it is not the same, the tone varies somewhat towards yellow, which, taking into account that the color scale must be reduced, is a color that could be closer to Gunze's H33, which is the color used, which is a reddish brown, but on this page that you have placed some problems appear with the comparisons of the colors for example the fs20061 is not yellow as it indicates for n13... since it is maroon...
 
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Good stuff Sergio. Didn't really follow the whole colour discussion but it's looking good.
discussion???, NO, NO, NO, very very friendly conversation, full of information and good results, it is the conversion of the usual Japanese colors, finding a color that has always been controversial. In a matter of the name, it is the majority that can generate more controversy, but the background that is the most important (as I see it).

For the rest, I'm happy to see that after this time out you think my work is so good despite the thousands of errors I have and the mold has...
 

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