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OT still, but you will love that! I got to see her in action and it was simply amazing. One of the most beautiful things I have seen.
LOL- If ever the phrase "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" was so true - it depends on your perspective if you happen to be the focus of 'attention'.. I saw the AC-47 and the early AC-130 in action - simply awesome
Well there were several variants of Tempest as well. Some powered with V form engines and some even with radials.
The one I saw at Hendon was a radial version.
I can`t tell you for 1945, but I did a bit of Excell work on that based on available online transcriptions of the original strenght reports. Here`s what I have for December 1944.
1st December 1944 : Total 124 D-9s with the Tagjagd, 1 with Stab/JG2, 55 Doras with II./JG26, 68 Dora Nines with III./JG54.
During the month, they receive no less than 214 brand new D-9s; another five returns from repairs; 52 is lost to enemy action, 45 w/o enemy action, 7 to overhauls (or rather, leaves the unit and it`s adminstration).
By the end of December, 1944, the day before Bodenplatte, they report a total of 238 D-9s on hand. The major users operating on around full Gruppe- strenght (~40 ac each) are I./JG2 (38), III./JG2 (35), I./JG26 (49), II./JG26 (39), III./JG54 (49). II./JG301 has 18, Stab/JG2 has 4 ac. III./JG26 (1), Stab/JG27 (2), Stab/JG4 (1), Stab/JG26 (2) also operates a couple.
Thx for this. Do you have any idea what other JG that had some Fw 109D's was engaged N. Koln in Munster area on 14 January? I know of III/JG 26 but that was Koln and south vs 78FG
BTW, Bill, you mentioned some G-6/AS data for unit strenghts around for 1944 you`ve seen (in some other recent thread).
I just dumped it in the Corsair vs Fw and Me thread for you - as well as the flight test data for the X-P51G
Can I get a copy of, since the sources I use are unfortunately do not give much of an idea what is the exact subtype present with the unit (ie. G-5/AS evidenced by pictures are just reported as factory-fresh G-5s.. probably data plate not being stemped over in early conversions..?), and I`d like to establish what the subtype structure looked like in 1944, when so many aircraft were just converted/updated/modernized from older airframes, and this leads to the above trouble with monthly strengh reports.. :/
Marcel, I went there last Sunday. Didn't get into the BoB hangar but nevertheless it was worth it! Good thing I didn't get off at Hendon itself.
Kris
Flugzeugbestand und Bewegungsmeldungen, Jagdverbände
I have used the TO&E source to look at what types of 109s were dominant in LuftFlotte Reich including JG3, III/26 (several occcasions), JG5, JG27 and JG53 and JG301 in the March-May 1944 timeframe. Let me know whether you think they are representative?
It`s an excellent resource IMHO, but a word of warning : I`ve noticed especially about the first six months of 1944 that the subtypes are not always 100% accurate.
Thinking about conversions and rebuilds here.. for example the first G-5/6/AS are reported on those TOEs (rather, equipment 'movement' reports) list in June/July the earliest IIRC (which I why I was surprised when you said somewhere you saw /AS aircraft in the spring - which unit..? ). Hhowever it is certain that the first lucky units had them as early as March/April 1944 already.
The unit strenght returns of ww2.dk however only lists ordinary Neubau G-5s arriving... no /AS, nothing.
K - I'm not sure what my source was for -6/AS deployment in Spring..
I presume they reported dataplates and serial numbers, which, for some early conversions, may have not been stamped over in the factory, and on paper those aircraft were still 'G-5's and 'G-6's, or the designation was just not yet standard etc. And, most /AS aircraft until mid-1944 were conversions... same about MW-50. No clue in the Bewegungsmeldungen which aircraft have these... the precise subtypes are obviously not listed in many cases, which as I said, probably a result of the conversion, not to mention there was no clear designation for the aircraft with MW-50 initially (unofficial things like G-6/MW and the like appearing sometimes..).
Interesting info - thx
For this reason, the exact type structure are difficult to arrive at for early 1944, but it seemed to it`s specific thing to that period, which can be explained by large number of conversions, and interim designations suddenly appearing.
Thanks.
It was big but I didn't think it was taller than both of the images that make up your sig.