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75T FCM / Char 2C multi turret tank Nr 98 Turret nr 8

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Citroen TUB ambulance

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Snautzer01 said:
BP-43 Panzerzug

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100% Original. Leider schlecht erhalten, Ecken sind bestoßen und geknickt, Flecken, Anrisse, Klebereste, Mängel siehe Scann. Masse: 9 x 6 cm.
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Actually, even Russians can't state of what type it was and which the armour train belonged to. For sure it is not the armour train BP-43 type but an artillery car with the turrets from the BT light tank. And this indicates the early period of the German attack on the Russia rather. I would say the waggon fits better the armour train OB-3 type. The BP-43 type had the turrets from the T-34 tank, IIRC.

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Wurger said:
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Actually, even Russians can't state what it is. For sure it is not the armour train BP-43 type but an artillery car with the turrets from the BT ligh tank. And this indicates the early period of the German attack on the Russia rather. I would say the waggon fits better the armour train OB-3 type. The BP-43 type had the turrets from the T-34 tank, IIRC.

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It is possible that it is none of the mentioned variants. The book by Kolomiets contains two similar photos, but the author does not know the type or number of the armored train. Photos of the OB-3 type units in the book differ significantly from the presented above.
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It is possible that it is none of the mentioned variants. The book by Kolomiets contains two similar photos, but the author does not know the type or number of the armored train. Photos of the OB-3 type units in the book differ significantly from the presented above.
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I agree. The Russian sources calssified the waggon as the unknown. I have to admit that the car body looks like being welded but not riveted. At least the small number of them was used. Most of the early armoured trains had the stuff made by riveting mostly and the great number of them can be noticed.
 
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Armored train 22-09-1941 Monday

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According to the Kolomiyets's book, it is an armored train "Marshal Budyonny" (later became the prototype for a series of armored trains of NKPS-42 type), manufactured at the Poltava Locomotive Repair Plant in July 1941 in 12 days (installation of armor, equipment and armament).
It fought within a very short time period from August 31 to September 5, 1941. On September 6, in the battle at Potoki station (between Poltava and Kremenchug), the armored train derailed and the ammunition detonated on the rear platform, and then it was abandoned by its crew.
 
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Wurger said:
I have to admit that the car body looks like being welded but not riveted. At least the small number of them was used. Most of the early armoured trains had the stuff made by riveting mostly and the great number of them can be noticed.
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Yes, the hull appears to be all-welded - we can only see the bolt heads (goujon-type?) for attaching to the frame. In general, welding for armored trains in the USSR was introduced before the war, but due to lack of materials and equipment riveting was widely used during the war. It is hardly possible to identify the train or determine the manufacturer by this feature.
 
Wurger said:
Actually, even Russians can't state of what type it was and which the armour train belonged to. For sure it is not the armour train BP-43 type but an artillery car with the turrets from the BT light tank. And this indicates the early period of the German attack on the Russia rather. I would say the waggon fits better the armour train OB-3 type. The BP-43 type had the turrets from the T-34 tank, IIRC.
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I'm ashamed to admit it, but I can't identify what kind of tower it is - IMHO, very unusual!
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